Progressive African Types?

[Evolved]

By progressive I mean tall & long heads; less sloping foreheads; high-bridged, long noses, etc. Where did they come from? Are they mixed with Mediterranean Caucasoids or are the Caucasoid-like features evolved?

[morfrain_encilgar]

By progressive I mean tall & long heads; less sloping foreheads; high-bridged, long noses, etc. Where did they come from? Are they mixed with Mediterranean Caucasoids or are the Caucasoid-like features evolved?

Their appearence is because of Eurafrican descent and later hybridisation with Caucasoid immigrants.

[Newgrange]

are they are Ethiopians, Ethiopia is where mankind originates, so we (caucasians)should look somewhat alike, african-americans are from west sub-saharan african. Ethiopians look more evolved than west sub-saharan africans , even in studies that I have seen on pbs tv tell us caucasians are more closely related to some africans then certain africans are to each other , but they don't mention which groups are more closely related, I think it's out of political correctness.

[Frans_Jozef]

By progressive I mean tall & long heads; less sloping foreheads; high-bridged, long noses, etc. Where did they come from? Are they mixed with Mediterranean Caucasoids or are the Caucasoid-like features evolved?

Racial progression is a complicated matter; I deal it later in a special entry on the main points of characteristical departure of older stock compared to the neolithic forms...
Anyway, there is indeed lengthening of the head from anthropoids to neanderthalers and the latter and archaic moderns virtually match, till from the the last stages of the Paleoliticum there's a gradual decrease.
The biggest divergence whereby the skull contour makes for a discontinuity is with the appearance of modern man: the vault gets higher and curved....however this is also relative and debateable, while in relation to the excessive head lenght, the ratio expressed by it drops; some Neanderthalids were as good as high-headed from basion to bregma as Nordics, like the La FerrassieI specimen.
This is also true for the Aurignician Combe Capelle who reaches an orthocephalic mean, notwitstanding achieving an impressive height of 139mm.
The vertical development of the skull/head must be reckoned as neotenious; after all, when we grow up first the head lenght becomes established, later the vault height.

[Frans_Jozef]

Where did they come from? Are they mixed with Mediterranean Caucasoids or are the Caucasoid-like features evolved?

Been there, done that..during your prolonged absence

http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=9388

[pantocrator]

They are ethiopid, a contact race resulting from an old and stabilized mixing of congoid and eastern mediterraneans. A famous and recent study showed that genetically they are 60/100 blacks and 40/100 meds.

[Agrippa]

Progressive implies to me that features are NEW and ADVANTAGEOUS or at least not disadvantageous.

In that sence Aethiopids are more progressive than other strong pigmented African types, especially compared with Palaenegrids.

Features which I would describe as infantile, paedomorphic or foetalized can be progressive if they are in more than one (sexual) way advantageous.
If not, than this features might be new but not progressive in my scheme.
Than maybe the older and more "primitive" features are more progressive because progression means anagenese, means higher/increasing development, higher potential and not just "new".
Because especially after the higher technology levels reached about 10.000 years ago, especially after Neolithization and in tropical regions "new" can mean just degeneration oftentimes.

[Eohwine]

All of this is nonsense. Think of the Fulani, they are black, too. These features are a result of mixture and have no effect on intelligence.

[Agrippa]

All of this is nonsense. Think of the Fulani, they are black, too. These features are a result of mixture and have no effect on intelligence.

Yes its just admixture, but I doubt that it has no influence on the mental abilities.
Of course if the admixture is small a big difference in intelligence etc. is not very likely.

[Nomad]

By progressive I mean tall & long heads; less sloping foreheads; high-bridged, long noses, etc. Where did they come from? Are they mixed with Mediterranean Caucasoids or are the Caucasoid-like features evolved?

Old thread, but I can't just let misinformation like this be spread.

1. The negroid is among the most dolichocephalic of human races. Africans are longer-headed than any European type.

2. Sloping forehead is a "mongolid" trait. Africans have the steepest foreheads. Europeans are somewhere in between.