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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    What do you think of children born out of wedlock? Are they socially (and legally) disadvantaged? Is anyone here born out of wedlock or knows children who are? Does the child feel a sense of inferiority or does he feel normal?
    Should we view children born from people who haven't gone through some stupid religious/state ritual inferior? Are they less germanic???? The only people that think these kids are disadvataged are religious nuts.

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    These children are innocent, they are born because of two irresponsible people but of cos in Scandinavia the term ''children born out of wedlock'' does not exist at all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oski Von Skadi View Post
    Should we view children born from people who haven't gone through some stupid religious/state ritual inferior? Are they less germanic???? The only people that think these kids are disadvataged are religious nuts.

    lol
    To be precise, I wasn't necessarily talking about religious marriage, but legal/civil/state marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    These children are innocent, they are born because of two irresponsible people but of cos in Scandinavia the term ''children born out of wedlock'' does not exist at all!
    What do you think makes the people irresponsible?

    P.S. To clarify, I'm not necessarily talking about unexpected pregnancies or single parenthood, but also include cases of people who cohabit but don't marry (for example some people think that marriage is just a piece of paper or don't want the state involved in their private matters).

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    Disadvantaged ?

    Oski, illegitimate children were, until recently, discriminated against. Even today, in some societies, they are denied the right to inherit from the father's estate. Among the nobility, they were barred from inheriting the father's title, even if there was no legitimate heir.

    At the beginning of the 20th century, a bastard was regarded with scorn by many self-righteous people. This is, I am sure, still true in some societies. Surely there is no dearth of the self-righteous, who would blame the child for its parent's transgressions.

    Baerin, when pre- or extra-marital sexual activity gives rise to pregnancy, it is both the moral and the legal responsibility of the parents to legitimise the offspring. It is the father's moral and legal responsibility to support the child. This obligation is formalised and made legally binding by marriage. Evading this responsibility is irresponsible.

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    Gorm is right. Marriage is the formalized agreement by man and woman to [eventually] raise a family together. Even not speaking of anything "religious", such agreement is truly, truly sacred. Whoever disagrees that raising children is sacred probably should not be on this website.


    To Oski Von Skadi, Who would care? The child may feel sad or depressed later, thinking their parents did not care enough (about him) to be married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jute View Post
    Gorm is right. Marriage is the formalized agreement by man and woman to [eventually] raise a family together.
    Marriage means different things in different places, and different things to different people.

    To Oski Von Skadi, Who would care? The child may feel sad or depressed later, thinking their parents did not care enough (about him) to be married.
    Children can feel "sad or depressed" about a lot of things, that's life, but as long as they have loving parents with a good relationship, it's likely it won't be an issue.

    I would never get married solely for the sake of a child. If you rush into getting married when you're not ready, the probability of it resulting in an unhappy marriage is pretty high. The child will sense this and it will be far more detrimental to the emotional health of the child than possibly waiting to get married until you're ready.

    That being said, I avoid pregnancy at all costs, because I definitely would not want that for my future. My family also wouldn't like the thought of an a baby born out of wedlock, but that has a lot to do with social statuses and how they'd look ("trashy", in their eyes) to their friends and acquaintances more than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jute View Post
    To Oski Von Skadi, Who would care? The child may feel sad or depressed later, thinking their parents did not care enough (about him) to be married.
    The opposite can also be true. I have a friend whose parents concieved out of wedlock but they married before she was born. She felt like a burden sometimes, thinking her parents married just for her sake and wondering if she didn't ruin what plans they had before she was in the picture.

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    If they been responsible surely these two people would married 1st then would have child in a proper way, or use precautions. Because the question, children born out of wed lock would not come at the 1st place. Am I not right?
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    Look all 4 of my kids were born out of wedlock. We raised them together and they are fine and don't even know the difference, we were "married" in their eyes even if we hadn't gone through the courts or churches. I'm getting married in one month anyways... so I'm not slamming marriage. I don't believe in "in-laws" as my family because they are not blood related to me.

    Her (the mother's) family are all hard-line christians and are all miserable people so I avoided the whole marriage thing fyi. In my opinion the bloodline is all that matters, my kids are all that matter not some stuffy old relatives beliefs and the state's idea of marriage cause thats a joke here in california anyways.

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    both my children were born out of wedlock. Is this an issue? Well at least my children have both their parents. Many kids, don't live with their fathers, some don't even know them.

    To my mind children are more binding then marriage, that bond is blood not a ritual and a piece of paper.

    I've no doubt my partner wishes to get married at some point in the future and no doubt we will. But Marriage is no guarantee of a longterm, secure relationship and certainly no guarantee that the individuals involved are good parents.

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