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    Border Police Plan to Be Unveiled by Tories

    Border police plan to be unveiled by Tories

    Telegraph 29/06/2008

    David Cameron's Conservatives will unveil plans for a new "Border Protection Service" to crack down on illegal immigration.

    The Tory policy review board was led by Lord Stevens

    The dedicated force would protect Britain's 71 international and major regional airports, 10,500 miles of coastline and 27 major sea ports.

    The new service would be a police force, led by a Chief Constable and responsible to the Home Secretary.

    It has been drawn up by a Tory policy review board led by Lord Stevens, the former Met commissioner.

    Lord Stevens believes the proposal would cut out duplication and waste, establish clearer priorities, and allow the development of specialist skills in fighting people trafficking, illegal immigration, and drug smuggling.

    Conservatives say the new forces would also enhance co-operation with other countries' immigration enforcement agencies, because they would have a single point of contact in the UK...........

    The Tories say they want a harder approach to illegal immigration, which has surged in the past decade and has stretched police forces tacking gun crime, drug and people trafficking across Britain.

    The Tories will make their announcement in the wake of a report from HM Inspectorate of Constabulary, which raised fears about the protection of British ports.

    The HMIC study warns that dozens of small ports and airports have been stripped of Customs officers.

    Targets imposed by central government have forced Customs managers to focus resources on a few large airport and ports, HMIC found.

    It also raised concerns that all the Customs in-shore cutters are currently on loan to other Government agencies, and said that even forces in landlocked countries like Switzerland have larger fleets than the UK.

    Earlier this month, Jacqui Smith, signalled ministers are working on a new 3,000-strong police force dedicated to securing the UK's borders.............eyes:

    The Home Secretary said that senior officers had proposed a single force, run by its own chief constable, which will include uniformed officers on patrol and Special Branch to fight terrorism.

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    Labour think they can APE Tory plans - and get away with it. CRAP > The Tories have considered these plans for several years -- and now it is time to push it!
    ITS A START, at least!

    They should have special powers of arrest and detainment.

    They should be backed up by high powered intelligence units capable of relentlessly tracking down and containing illegal and undesirable aliens and promptly removing them on a permanent basis .

    They should have the support in their work of all patriotic forces and people - and they should sort it all out for the good of all!:

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    The cynic in me can't help but feel this is just an attempt to get votes.

    When they do get into power will the practicalities of creating such a force be such, that the idea falls by the wayside?

    3000 is a little low? If we didn't have so much of our armed forces fighting in Afghanistan/Iraq we could of utilised them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hildolf View Post

    3000 is a little low? If we didn't have so much of our armed forces fighting in Afghanistan/Iraq we could of utilised them?

    I would vote for the party which said it was evacuating our troops to help police our streets in a flash.
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    sorry - but -
    Earlier this month, Jacqui Smith, signalled ministers are working on a new 3,000-strong police force dedicated to securing the UK's borders

    -- are Labour's ideas. I dont want them . The tories at least might mean it! But I doubt if it will be enough.....

    .... a bit like the youth crime thing. Its all a bit late now....

    My question was -- what alternative is there. Answer - none! sorry folks.... its reality time alas...........

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    Yes .... at least this one can now be more effectively answered.

    David Cameron backs 30,000 strong border police force

    Telegraph 02/07/2008

    The Conservatives would create a new border police force which is 10 times bigger than one already under discussion by Labour ministers, David Cameron has pledged.


    David Cameron listens to Lord Stevens speak at the launch of his report Border Protection Service for the UK - Policy Proposals in East London

    Mr Cameron has given his support to a report by Lord Stevens of Kirkwelpington, who as Sir John Stevens was the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, calling for a new force with sweeping police-style powers to crack down on terrorism, organised crime, immigration and smuggling.

    The suggested new Border Protection Service would have 30,000 police officers and civilians - dwarfing the plans for a 3,000 strong border force which is due to form part of an upcoming Police Green paper.

    (Armed officers carrying out searches for illegal immigrants, terrorists and contraband at ports and airports as part of the new protection service.)

    It would be "uniformed and unified" and would be a police service rather than a civilian organisation, led by a Chief Constable.

    The service would mark a significant departure from the traditional style of British policing with officers allowed to collect taxes and decide on immigration issues, breaking the traditional divide between the State and the police.

    Officers also would be able to stop, search, arrest and detain suspects, and issue on-the-spot fines for Customs breaches and other duty rules, such as limits on alcohol and tobacco.

    Mr Cameron insisted it would not be such a radical departure. "Many other countries, including countries like Canada, have a border police force," he said.

    "We think that, wandering through this airport, you can see the case for a border police force just staring out at you. I don't think in any way it undermines the traditional role and position of the police."

    He said that it would be possible to make the new service fully accountable, and that the exact proposals being accepted by the Tory Party from Lord Stevens' report would be detailed in his party's manifesto when the time came.

    A number of organisations have already been merged by the Government to create the new UK Border Agency, which began operating in April.

    However, so far ministers have shied away from including police in the organisation, which Lord Stevens said would be a crucial part of ensuring Britain's safe borders.

    Lord Stevens, who is also Gordon Brown's adviser on international security, said: "There is an urgent need for a fundamental redesign of our border arrangements to enable us to keep abreast of global developments.

    "At the moment there is, I am afraid, a fragmented approach to this, and this needs to be pulled together as quickly as we can."

    A spokesman for the UK Border Agency said the Government would kickstart a consultation on its new Border Force shortly.

    He said: "Our £2 billion new force at the border is already falling into place equipped with new police-like powers and world-leading technology.

    "The new UK Border Agency has already started work bringing together 25,000 immigration, customs and visa staff. Crucially the new agency starts its work abroad with identity checks on every foreign national applying for a visa.

    "So far the Agency has taken more than 1.7 million sets of fingerprints – with checks flagging up over 16,000 immigration offenders before they enter the UK, including 1,600 cases of identity fraud.

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    So, no need to bring in the army! - such a border Police in these times would automatically be a para-military type organization -- just think what it would be up against!

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