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    Quote Originally Posted by Freydis View Post
    I think it's necessary to admit wrong in some cases...
    I would agree, but in which cases of doing wrong is it not necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freydis View Post
    ...just because other people did it as well in the past doesn't mean it was ever right in the first place.
    Yes, indeed

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    Reparations and payments are mostly unnecessary, because if the offended party is only looking for an apology, money should be irrelevant in the matter.
    The Germanic sense of justice is not so idolizing like you are, if people have lost something, they might acknowledge a truthful regret, however, they still are at a disadvantage that should allow for compensation.
    In fact the act of a verbal apology means nothing in life, it makes those involved feel goof for a short moment, and then reality snaps.
    No Germanic of the ancient times would have thought about his land, his gold or his kettle as something he could abstain from, in return for a verbal apology, within family that might be different, but this has other reasons than the newly found modern value of "apologies", in life what counts is always the deed, not the spoken word, real apologies are deeds, not some lip service, e.g. monetary compensation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freydis View Post
    It is important to forgive (as the offended party) as well.
    Important for what?

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    My ancestors were too poor to afford slaves anyways so that's sort of irrelevant to me. ^^
    If you had free Germanics as ancestors, it is highly likely that they had "slaves".
    Different slaves, than those Negroes though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freydis View Post
    The problem is that we are too focused on money rather than human interaction...
    Which is wrong why? Because there is not enough money? Besides, exchanging money with humans, is human interaction, is it not?

    Anyway, I am for apologizing for every wrong doing, but I consider the slaves of America, nor the fight against the Indians as something wrong.
    That doesn't mean I want to repeat it, but at that time it was the best for the Germanic people, actually the problem was most likely too much of kindness.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    I have nothing to apologize to anyone about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    I have nothing to apologize to anyone about.
    Thats exactly my opinion aswell.

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    I sincerely feel that it would be appropriate for white Americans to apologise to the African American community for having forcibly brought their ancestors from Africa; the descendants of these slaves should all be generously compensated for the injustices done to their forebears with a one way air fare back to Africa, in order to set things right

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    Why should i apologise for the fact that my ancestors were stronger than theirs? That's not a source of shame for me, it's a source of pride.
    I am Ripper... Tearer... Slasher... Gouger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    What's your opinion about this? Germans feeling guilty abotu the Holocaust and apologizing to descendents of Holocaust survivors,
    My own opion about apologizing for these kind of things that is bit nonsense. It happend. Should we demand an apology from the Spanish because Filip II wanted to raise taxes without the traditional consent of the local nobility, just to name an example?

    or Americans apologizing for the extermination of Indians.
    This indian doesn't want one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    I have nothing to apologize to anyone about.
    The same here.

    Apologizing has become a shallow formality nowadays, there are really few who apologize honestly, and here I'm speaking from my own experience.
    But anyway, if there would be any kind of apologizing about the past, it should be put in deeds mostly and not only in words.

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    Whats worse is Germans apologizing for events that didn't actually happen.

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    Apologies mean nothing, in my opinion, especially collective ones.
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    I haven't killed any jews or indians, so why should I say sorry?

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