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    Finnish Swede: Never understand ideas why somebodies should adore Victorian England.
    Because Britain, as a nation, thrived during this period (which included the Industrial Revolution) and greatly increased her wealth and international prestige despite all of the social squalor.

    There are some who look at our military victories, such as the Crimean War and the Boer War, and others who look at the appalling hardship endured by the working class. It all depends which angle you take.

    Vķšįlfr: Also, from SaxonPagan's article:

    There were also places called reformatories, which aimed to rehabilitate fallen women. These were often run by religious groups. The attitudes of the people who ran the reformatories was that prostitutes acted out on their own selfish desires.
    In many ways, living in a reformatory was worse than jail. They required women to stay for a minimum of two years to ensure that they were “cured.” Women were also required to show a deep sense of self-hatred for their evil actions and a desire for forgiveness from God for their sins in order to qualify for housing. Reformatories required women to wake up at 5:00 AM, pray four times per day, attend religious services twice a day, work hard labor, and be locked in their bedrooms by 8:00 PM.
    You know, when I read stuff like this ^ I'm tempted to conclude that brothels are far more useful places than churches.

    They certainly do less harm and I'd much prefer 'fallen women' any day to the religious bigots who ran the institutions described above.

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    I get that people do it, if legal or not.

    But if its illegal, there is a at least the possibility of punishment and consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vķšįlfr View Post
    By the way, many say that Mary Magdalene was also a prostitute..
    There are several stories about prostitutes and adulterous women in the Bible, however all these women had something in common: they repented and turned away from their sins. Jesus sends away the adulterous woman who was about to be stoned and forgives her, but also tells her "go and sin no more." Prostitution is a sin, and while any fallen woman can be rehabilitated, unrepentant engagement in this practice should not be encouraged, particularly in a healthy Germanic society. Prostitution goes hand in hand with adultery and sexual promiscuity, which are both individualistic, anti-traditional family practices.

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    Far too many prudes on here IMO. Prostitution is the world oldest profession and ya simply can't stop it. Folks will always use sex as currency, even if you criminalize it. It's always been this way, a business like any other. Who are you to moralize to other folks how they should conduct their business like? For some folks, their body/sexuality is their greatest asset, and they know how to capitalize on it. That and, where are ya gonna draw the line? What about strippers, escorts, sugar babies, cam models, hotline workers and the like? They don't engage in sexual intercourse with their clients, but still use their bodies/sexuality in their line of work. IMO if you're gonna criminalize that kinda thing, you might as well criminalize modeling as well, since folks also capitalize on their bodies. Cmon.

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    It's not only "religious bigots" who are opposed to prostitution. I'm an atheist, and I believe prostitution should be illegal for many different reasons. First of all, the state should be an expression of the nation and hence the state can't legalize and condone dubious, degenerate practices which damage the nation as a collective. The liberal, individualistic urges and needs of the whores and their clients are less important than the health of the nation and especially the basic unit which forms the nation which is the family. Whores are serial homewreckers and on the same level with faggots and other sexual degenerates. I have no sympathy for them, and just because prostitution is "the oldest profession in the world" doesn't mean that it should be accepted. What kind of argument is that? Shall we also accept abortion of perfectly healthy Germanic babies, just because it has always happened and women might do it in back alleys? I don't think so. Until we reverse the effects of the sexual liberation, our nations will continue to decline. The liberal, individualistic cancer needs to be cut from the root, as the saying goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gefjon View Post
    Far too many prudes on here IMO. Prostitution is the world oldest profession and ya simply can't stop it. Folks will always use sex as currency, even if you criminalize it. It's always been this way, a business like any other. Who are you to moralize to other folks how they should conduct their business like? For some folks, their body/sexuality is their greatest asset, and they know how to capitalize on it. That and, where are ya gonna draw the line? What about strippers, escorts, sugar babies, cam models, hotline workers and the like? They don't engage in sexual intercourse with their clients, but still use their bodies/sexuality in their line of work. IMO if you're gonna criminalize that kinda thing, you might as well criminalize modeling as well, since folks also capitalize on their bodies. Cmon.
    They all are a result of the individualism and hedonism that hit us since the end of ww2.

    The oldest business is also a business that was rejected and dubios ever since the creation of our civilization, being a thieve or assassin can also be rationalized by being a business that existed since the birth of mankind, what a stupid argument.

    A person that is selling his/her body is disgusting and it reflects on the fact that most people that do it, generally come from the lowest socioeconomic classes and had a troubling/abusive childhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gefjon View Post
    Far too many prudes on here IMO. Prostitution is the world oldest profession and ya simply can't stop it. Folks will always use sex as currency, even if you criminalize it.
    Personally, I don't care so much about it being criminalized or not. As you say, it will happen to more or less the same degree anyway. I do, however, think there's a good point about it being socially sanctioned against, though. I don't know if you have any daughters yourself, but speaking purely hypothetically, would you have been proud and happy about a daughter of your's choosing to prostitute herself? If not, why would want that for anybody else's daughter? Social sanctions helps to deter women from choosing to go down that road, for whatever reason they may see sensible at the time. It's one of the main reasons of having a society in the first place; protecting the common good and the vulnerable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gefjon View Post
    Far too many prudes on here IMO. Prostitution is the world oldest profession and ya simply can't stop it. Folks will always use sex as currency, even if you criminalize it. It's always been this way, a business like any other.
    A lot of tragedies will always be with us, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try our hardest to curtail them.

    Prostitution isn't a business like any other for many reasons:

    1. It commodifies that which does not have a price - namely, love, dignity, the most profound bodily relationship besides birth someone can have with another human being
    2. It encourages dehumanization of women through increasing objectification - the prostitute is used as a thing to get the patron off and her human characteristics are progressively ignored (most prostitutes have been raped, physically assaulted, and have PTSD)
    3. It has an inverse relationship via risk - the "product" is the one assuming the risk, not the "consumer"
    4. Being the victim of child abuse is almost a necessary precondition to be a prostitute to begin with, not to mention the damage that occurs when children are born to mothers that engage in this, or the reality of child prostitution
    5. Facilitates human trafficking, drug abuse, and gang activity
    6. Exploits the most vulnerable people
    7. The "job" is inherently traumatic and legitimizing it means legitimizing those outcomes

    Who are you to moralize to other folks how they should conduct their business like?
    Besides the other reasons, we have a community and a broader civilization to maintain, having a common morality aids us in functioning effectively as a group and repelling hostile takeovers by groups that do have that.

    ...where are ya gonna draw the line? What about strippers, escorts, sugar babies, cam models, hotline workers and the like? They don't engage in sexual intercourse with their clients, but still use their bodies/sexuality in their line of work.
    They may not engage in actual sex but all of this still contributes to the objectification and dehumanization of the people that engage in it.

    IMO if you're gonna criminalize that kinda thing, you might as well criminalize modeling as well, since folks also capitalize on their bodies. Cmon.
    Seeing a woman wearing certain clothing on a billboard or in a magazine is no different than seeing her walking down the street in that same clothing, this is clearly about something more than aesthetics.

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    There would't be prostitution if men could control their sexuality little bit better. Potential customers creates business ... always. So men are ''guilty'' for that profession born. Simple as that. Case closed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    There would't be prostitution if men could control their sexuality little bit better. Potential customers creates business ... always. So men are ''guilty'' for that profession born. Simple as that. Case closed!
    And the female sex is responsible for which male traits have been bred forth to become prevalent, through their choice of which males they decided to breed with.

    Case re-opened?
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