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    Sex for money is a private transaction until you take into account the following factors surrounding prostitution: STDs, drug use, trafficking of underage girls, kidnapping, pimping & abuse. It seems the best compromise is to have legal brothels which are health-inspected by the state with 'services' available in different price ranges, while outlawing street prostitution and imposing heavy fines and jail sentences on those involved in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanseMacabre View Post
    I am against prostitution. I put folk before individual choice. Anything that could damage my folk I oppose. Men should find a suitable mate and have sex with her and produce children. As long as they are both intelligent and racially compatable. Then not only could they satisfy their natural urges but contribute to the folk.
    But is banning prostitution going to stop it from occurring. History tells us overwhelmingly that it is not, so banning it really won't protect the folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    Ban the whores. If men want sex they should get a girlfriend and they get it for free.
    Quote Originally Posted by DanseMacabre View Post
    Men should find a suitable mate and have sex with her and produce children. As long as they are both intelligent and racially compatable. Then not only could they satisfy their natural urges but contribute to the folk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scear View Post
    Most men who use the services of prostitutes are usually individuals of such poor quality, and so physically undesirable, that they could never attract a decent woman for a legitimate relationship.

    Personally, the entire idea of purely recreational sex leaves me cold.
    Men should be pursuing stable, long term relationships to build families, not chasing women for sexual gratification. Of course, it would be unrealistic to seriously expect all men to follow this, for those seeking just sexual gratification it would be better if they just go to prostitutes than plying normal women with alcohol, drugs, and every scheme they can come up with to get in their pants.



    Quote Originally Posted by Scear View Post
    A side note? I consider non-working women who hire nannies to raise their children - while they indulge themselves - to be little more than prostitutes with a contract of exclusivity.

    *Work would include a paying job, meaningful charity work, or the pursuit of an advanced education or a marketable skill.

    *Shopping or pampering yourself at the spa all day with similarly derelict girlfriends while Padma or Rosario looks after your children does not qualify as work.

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    That just shows how hard it is to draw the line on what is 'prostitution' and what isn't. Is a girl who goes on an expensive 'date' with a guy she doesn't really like that much a 'prostitute'? Women who get married without children at all?

    Who's going to keep watch of all this and make the determination?
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    I don't think it should be illegal. This is because outlawing it does little to prevent it, therefore none of the goals of outlawing it get accomplished. It also adds to the taxpayers burden while yielding little to no return on investment. I also think if it were legal, the public health risk would be reduced, either because of regulation in a more socialist system, or because of market demand in a more laissez faire situation. Basically its a very similar situation to drugs- its not going away, and its a victimless crime, so we ought to find the best way to cope with it.
    Tell that to the prostitutes' loved ones... tell that to their mothers, fathers, grandparents, brothers, sisters and possibly, their children... Or what's more, try to tell that to the prostitute when she's sober and she can truly grasp the reality of what she has become...

    Or perhaps you'd like to tell that to the punters' wives, girlfriends and/or children?


    Banning prostitution isn't a good idea, and very difficult to enforce.
    it should be legal since it is the person's choice if they wish to sell themselves for sexual pleasure.
    Yes, you're right. And neither can other degenerative aspects of human psyche, instinct and behaviour be controlled so easily... so I think perhaps we should just legalise, and therefore NORMALISE, anything and everything that people get the urge to do, because surely we can't control them via laws... actually - that makes laws quite redundant, doesn't it? Oh bugger it! Let's just do away with the law altogether... that sounds sensible.

    Check list of harmful deviancies to legalise (in the interests of avoiding the development of a black market, you understand )...

    Prostitution
    Recreational drug use
    Bestiality
    Paedophilia
    Terrorism

    Did I miss anything?

    Men should be pursuing stable, long term relationships to build families, not chasing women for sexual gratification. Of course, it would be unrealistic to seriously expect all men to follow this, for those seeking just sexual gratification it would be better if they just go to prostitutes than plying normal women with alcohol, drugs, and every scheme they can come up with to get in their pants.
    Yes, we couldn't possibly expect all men to have to behave themselves and take responsibility for their own sexuality (obtain sexual gratification without causing harm to others).... That really would be just too much of a burden on the poor dears.

    And I suppose we can't expect all men not to want to rob banks... so we'd better provide them with some "robbable" banks. Just the lower socio-economic banks that come from dysfunctional backgrounds of course. No one cares about those banks anyway.

    In any case, there are ways to protect "normal" women without having to resort to offering up a certain percentage of the female population to selling their bodies (and their self-respect and very souls). It's called instilling morality, modesty and self-respect into our young girls and putting limits on acceptable social behaviour. (Notice here the solution to poor social behaviour is to put strict limits on it, not do away with limits altogether because people will always fancy behaving badly!)


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    Honestly speaking, I've got to say that I find the extremist liberalist opinions around here very disturbing.... since when should laws comply with the "wanton desires" of every Tom, Dick and Harry??? Laws are created and upheld to protect people and families, and to build strong, secure foundations on which a healthy and prosperous civilisation can thrive.

    This attitude of "well people really want to do it so they should be allowed to" is really quite damaging to our societies.

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    It should be legal & laissez faire. The way to improve the quality of our folk is by instilling them with proper moral values and letting them decide for themselves, not bringing more government regulation into the mix. Besides, criminalizing moral behavior has shown repeatedly to be ineffective. The reality is that ultimately some people will make bad choices. It is inevitable. Still, how can we expect the quality of the folk to improve if they aren't allowed to make choices? I want our folk to be strong independent of some overarching authority, not some rabble of sheep that only behave as they are told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridie View Post
    Tell that to the prostitutes' loved ones... tell that to their mothers, fathers, grandparents, brothers, sisters and possibly, their children... Or what's more, try to tell that to the prostitute when she's sober and she can truly grasp the reality of what she has become...

    Or perhaps you'd like to tell that to the punters' wives, girlfriends and/or children?






    Yes, you're right. And neither can other degenerative aspects of human psyche, instinct and behaviour be controlled so easily... so I think perhaps we should just legalise, and therefore NORMALISE, anything and everything that people get the urge to do, because surely we can't control them via laws... actually - that makes laws quite redundant, doesn't it? Oh bugger it! Let's just do away with the law altogether... that sounds sensible.

    Check list of harmful deviancies to legalise (in the interests of avoiding the development of a black market, you understand )...

    Prostitution
    Recreational drug use
    Bestiality
    Paedophilia
    Terrorism

    Did I miss anything?
    I'm sure the prostitutes parents are wonderful people. Most hookers come from homes with two hardworking, kind, loving parents who did everything they could to be good parents. If you're going to call the parents victims, keep in mind chances are really good that daddy was molesting her if he was around at all, and mommy was probably drinking a lot and a bit promiscuous herself. Should we prosecute people for cheating on their spouses with un-compensated partners? I'm sure its nearly as devastating. That would be great for society, to have a government organization responsible for keeping track of all of our genitalia. As for the prostitute, if you need a law to tell you that you shouldn't have sex with people for money, I have a hard time believing that that law being in place is going to cause you to become an asset to society. No Law- Hooker, Law- High School Principal...it just doesn't seem to follow.

    Prostitution x
    Recreational drug use x
    Bestiality
    Paedophilia
    Terrorism (x?)

    We could make bestiality legal and spend millions advertising and promoting it, I don't think people would start considering it normal, let alone shagging goats all over the place. Same for Pedophilia. In both of these examples someone is being directly harmed every single time. Not the case with prostitution and recreational drugs, in fact, the banning of such drugs leads to extreme amounts of direct harm through gang warfare, and public health crisis caused by lack of regulating hookers.

    As far as terrorism goes, first of all its a ridiculous comparison. I'll have a go though. The real problem on 9-11 was that we failed to telephone the hijackers on the tenth and inform them that what they were going to do was illegal. Had we taken this minor precaution, the whole disaster could have been averted. Also, pretty much all terrorist acts are illegal already to begin with. Hijacking airplanes, killing people, hacking into and disabling computer infrastructure- all of these acts are covered by different laws altogether, illegal whether your considered a terrorist by some panels definition or not. What is a terrorism law, rather than a polished-up hate crime bill anyway, not to mention a basis for other wonderful legislation like the Patriot act.

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    The fact is that taking a radical change like banning prostitution from one minute to other wouldn't stop the whole "wave" cause its already on such large scale that I dont know honestly what could stop it. If people don't recognize it as a problem, and they don't see it as unhonourable thing, prostitution is not going to dissapear. A propper teaching to children(at a certain age) about honour in life and about the badness of prostitution would probabbly help raise a mentality that would make it dissapear after a while. But understanding the situation is most important, understanding that why is bad and why it should be eradicated. Just making it banned suddenly wont help people to understand the meaning of banning, nor the children, who grow up, seeing it what goes on everyday, that "love can be bought".
    Im totally against prostitution and I see it as an act of great dishonour and a lack of morality.

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    I think prostitution should be legal, and health checks run by the State. I am angry at the fact that sex has been pidgeon-holed into a dark corner... Sex is all over the place in advertising, and pornography is a wide market, in America at least, we push sex away with one hand while "interfering with ourselves" so to speak with the other. Not to mention we as a culture are repressed and woefully ignorant about the wide spectrum of sexual variation among the human population (fetishes, and so forth).

    Sexual expression is an enormous part of who we are as individuals and repression serves only to create unhappiness not only on a profane, but also on a spiritual level.

    Prostitutes should function without pimps. Prostitution was and is an acceptable part of Japanese society. In the case of India, during the time of the Kama Sutra advice is given about the taking of public women. Japanese prostitutes were called "goddesses of mercy."

    The taking of prostitutes serves as an arena of sexual expression and exploration, and I believe, if undertaken in a safe, sane manner under the right circumstances, should be as much a part of our society as going to a public house for a pint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    Men should be pursuing stable, long term relationships to build families, not chasing women for sexual gratification. Of course, it would be unrealistic to seriously expect all men to follow this, for those seeking just sexual gratification it would be better if they just go to prostitutes than plying normal women with alcohol, drugs, and every scheme they can come up with to get in their pants.





    That just shows how hard it is to draw the line on what is 'prostitution' and what isn't. Is a girl who goes on an expensive 'date' with a guy she doesn't really like that much a 'prostitute'? Women who get married without children at all?

    Who's going to keep watch of all this and make the determination?
    I am sure the EU could come up with something.


    .Scear

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    I dislike Prostitution because of Morality Issues. Also i think People who need that are poor.

    But Prostitution is good because of one Thing. Many Men can't control their Sexual Needs so easy as most can do, also many Men have a hard Way to find a Woman for it. So if they want Sex they can get it whenever they want for Money. I'm sure there would be alot of more Rape-Cases if Prostitution wouldn't exist in a Country.

    So i think it should be legal, but it should be also controlled by the State. It should not be on the Street and not controlled by "Pimps".




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