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    I was raised in a poaching family in Scotland. Most of the skills I learned could, I suppose, come under Survivalism since they taught us to rely on our own resources and skills rather than that of others or manufacture.
    So I learned to light fires from scratch as it was our only means of heat and at one point, cooking. Even today living in Orkney, I run a stove, an old Doric, which uses solid fuel, and often cook on and in it.
    I can light a fire from the flint and steel kit I have.
    I can track and trap meat, skin, butcher and cook it. I can also tan the hides and use them if needed.
    I usually grow my own vegetables and keep goats, and poultry, for meat and eggs. I count myself lucky enough to live in an area where old fashioned and traditional country skills still remain and this teaches a self reliance that is also necessary because of geographic isolation....this is a small island and often adverse weather cuts us off from mainland so we learn to be pretty self sufficient.
    The only guns I have are air rifles, though I do own crossbows and archery bows and an assortment of weapons, most for reenactment or just because I like them. (My favourite being a Celtic leaf bladed sword)
    I see a lot of people on mainland who are `losing` fairly traditional and basic skills, even to the extent of simple home cookery! It isn`t taught in many schools anymore and neither are other homemaking arts, which I think is a shame.
    But hey, I`m old enough to be able to say that!
    Y`know...? "Well, in my day, young un...ahem..."
    There have been a few winters, harsh and bitter, where through lack of money and being cut off from outside help, I`ve had no choice but to rely on what I can do or what I had in stock to get by.
    Caught unawares at one point, I went almost a week with barely a mouthful of food, my own stupid fault and a sharp taught lesson I never forgot.
    But have to say, the older I get, the more I`d kill for some decent central heating sometimes.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oresai View Post
    I was raised in a poaching family in Scotland. Most of the skills I learned could, I suppose, come under Survivalism since they taught us to rely on our own resources and skills rather than that of others or manufacture.
    So I learned to light fires from scratch as it was our only means of heat and at one point, cooking. Even today living in Orkney, I run a stove, an old Doric, which uses solid fuel, and often cook on and in it.
    I can light a fire from the flint and steel kit I have.
    I can track and trap meat, skin, butcher and cook it. I can also tan the hides and use them if needed.
    I usually grow my own vegetables and keep goats, and poultry, for meat and eggs. I count myself lucky enough to live in an area where old fashioned and traditional country skills still remain and this teaches a self reliance that is also necessary because of geographic isolation....this is a small island and often adverse weather cuts us off from mainland so we learn to be pretty self sufficient.
    The only guns I have are air rifles, though I do own crossbows and archery bows and an assortment of weapons, most for reenactment or just because I like them. (My favourite being a Celtic leaf bladed sword)
    I see a lot of people on mainland who are `losing` fairly traditional and basic skills, even to the extent of simple home cookery! It isn`t taught in many schools anymore and neither are other homemaking arts, which I think is a shame.
    But hey, I`m old enough to be able to say that!
    Y`know...? "Well, in my day, young un...ahem..."
    There have been a few winters, harsh and bitter, where through lack of money and being cut off from outside help, I`ve had no choice but to rely on what I can do or what I had in stock to get by.
    Caught unawares at one point, I went almost a week with barely a mouthful of food, my own stupid fault and a sharp taught lesson I never forgot.
    But have to say, the older I get, the more I`d kill for some decent central heating sometimes.....
    You're fortunate to have learned all of those skills (or I should rather say, to have *had* to learn these skills), Oresai. And I couldn't agree more with the notion that basic skills aren't being taught enough in our schools these days. It's the same here in Canada. Kids aren't being taught any of the daily life skills that we were once taught by taking courses such as Home Ec. or Woodworking or such. I see so many men and women of my own generation (tail-end babyboomer) that don't know how to be handymen, work with basic tools, build a basic anything with lumber and nails, and don't know how to cook, or sew or knit, or preserve food. We've come to rely far too heavily on the availability of prepared items and have lost the art, craft and science of just making it ourselves. A sure recipe for disaster I think.

    Great reading about your lifestyle up in the Orkneys, Oresai. Thanks!

    Frith...Aemma

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    I've been watching Ultimate Survival on Discovery Channel, a British reality television series in which survival expert Bear Grylls demonstrates and narrates techniques for wilderness survival in regions around the globe. That's survival taken to the extreme.
    I've to say it got me to become a little bit more survivalist. I've to have at least a bottle of water, flashlight, batteries and knife in the kitchen.

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    In addition to stocking food, tools and cash, it may also be prudent to keep some gold and silver coins on hand, just in case your regular currency crashes and becomes worthless.

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    It is interesting to note the different responses on this forum between Americans and people living in other countries. Americans seem alot more informed on the topic. I think this is a result of our living conditions here in the U.S. First, most Americans are keenly aware that our government is corrupt and self-serving and therefore will be conspicuously absent in the aftermath of a collapse, leaving us with little choice but to look to our own defenses. Secondly, the significant ethnic diversity we are plagued with in this country can only have bad implications in the aftermath of a disaster.

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    I'm afraid you are quite right. Especially Northwestern Europeans still have a lot of faith in their governments and heavily depend on them to solve their problems for them. Not just because they're stupid; the governments strongly encourage this sort of behavior. I wouldn't say that we have a lack of ethnic diversity here, though, especially in the cities. You might think that in a way it is even worse here, because all the immigration stems from a much more recent date. At least black Americans are still Americans, more than a lot of Dutch Muslims are Dutch. Furthermore, the US in general is a lot less crowded than it is over here. You still have wild places that invite people to practice survival skills. You still have small farmers around that have some experience with these things. You can have something like homesteaders, for which there would be no place here, anymore. The only farms left in our part of the world are large meat or milk factories. But to get back to your point: I think it is true that because people here trust the government too much, it just doesn't cross their minds that they might need to prepare to save themselves.

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    Oresai,
    central heat? all we've had for the last 35 years is wood stoves. Yes, we have electric, but only wood heat. I've got enough wheat, oats, rice and barley to last us over a year, and weapons for self defense and hunting. No, I'm not a nut, this is how our ancestors (as you know) survived. It really makes me sad when I buy veggies and the young clerk doesn't even know what they are!!

    Our western civilization is a house of cards, waiting to fall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    I've been watching Ultimate Survival on Discovery Channel, a British reality television series in which survival expert Bear Grylls demonstrates and narrates techniques for wilderness survival in regions around the globe. That's survival taken to the extreme.
    I've to say it got me to become a little bit more survivalist. I've to have at least a bottle of water, flashlight, batteries and knife in the kitchen.
    That could be the only one thing worth watching nowadays...the closest I've been to surviving out in the wilderness has been hiking and jogging out in the cold winter nature trails, when its late. This afternoon I was performing sports magick out there, I called on the nature sprites to help me channel the energy I was exerting into the latest projects I'm focused on.
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    I don't know if I would call myself a survivalist, but we produce about sixty to seventy five percent of our own food. I think we do this more because we like to do it and health reasons. We increase this amount every year. Preserving food by canning in Mason jars is a good time for us, it is hard work but something we do it together.

    We do have guns for hunting and defense and reloading equipment. There again I like to hunt and own weapons.

    There is a whole series of books I would recommend is the Fox Fire Books. These books started out as a High School project to record and preserve the lifestyles of the Appalachian Mountains. In these books it tells you how to do about everything you need to know from raising and preserving your own food, to home remedies , to making your own iron. There are also chapters on making moonshine, firearms, house building, animal husbandry, making your own shoes, and other affairs of plain and simple living. Warning these books can be hard to read as some chapters are written in Appalachian dialect.

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    http://www.foxfire.org/thefoxfirebookseries.aspx

    you might find them online if you search The Foxfire Books.
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    I am a member of a survivalist forum, I quite enjoy it, you might check it out.

    http://www.survivalistboards.com

    Hope to see you there, a lot of good info there, and a lot of good ideas, by far the best forum I have ever found.

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