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    I don't know, I think I would rather be safe than sorry. Information worth retaining.

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    The information was more to educate than make someone a paranoid person awaiting the apocalypse. It's to give people an idea of what is needed in dire circumstances instead of being in the dark of things.
    "Life; it kills 100% of those who experience it."

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    Definately a good mindset to have but I lack the preparation to be like that. But they'd definately be a useful sort of person to have in a disaster!
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    I wish there was a survivalist subforum...

    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=854271
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=855047
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=77639

    10 Day Survival Pack for your vehicle

    When the next world-crushing disaster strikes — tsunami, quake, dirty bomb, whatever — one thing is certain: You're on your own. As hurricanes Katrina and Rita showed, help may not arrive for 72 hours. Don't fret. Wired has your back with these shopping lists for your DIY emergency kit. Because when everything goes to hell, you'll want gear that gives you an evolutionary advantage over your less-prepared neighbors. Clip and save; lock and load.

    The House Kit

    Store all this gear in a sealed plastic trash can or containers. It won't cost as much as you think: You probably own most of this stuff already.

    A. First aid You could buy the $25 kit from Red Cross. Or you could build your own: bandages, alcohol, cotton balls, antidiarrheals, anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen, and prescription meds.

    B. Clothes A full change, including warm outer layers (wool or synthetic) and sturdy shoes, for each person under your roof.

    C. Plastic sheeting Fiber-reinforced, laminated polyethylene film, 0.006 inches* thick. You can buy 1,200 square feet of Dura Skrim DS2 for about $100. Or get a tarp — for covering broken windows, roofs.

    D. Zip ties Handy when you have to make splints, compression bandages, or tourniquets.

    E. Water A gallon per person, per day. For a family of four, that's 12 gallons. If you have the space for that, great. If not, keep as much as you can manage. Have unscented bleach on hand, too — 16 drops in a gallon and you've got potable H20. Tea bags make it taste OK.

    F. Food Raid the pantry: dehydrated soups, canned tuna and veggies, nuts and candy. Peanut butter is high-calorie and has a long shelf life. You can also buy freeze-dried camping meals.

    G. Flashlight We like the Inova X5 — it's water-resistant, aircraft-grade anodized aluminum and uses LEDs. But a cheap drugstore version and some batteries will do just fine.

    H. Protective wear Waterproof and cut-resistant Kevlar gloves and N95 face masks.

    I. Tools A crowbar to pry debris that might stand between you and a loved one. An adjustable wrench. Screwdrivers. A staple gun. Rope.

    J. Matches You're probably not a Boy Scout. Get the kind marked waterproof and windproof and store 'em in a ziplock bag. In another bag, hoard some dryer lint for kindling.

    The Go Pack

    Keep these items in a backpack that's readily accessible — you know, in case you have to bail at a moment's notice. One bag per person.

    K. Radio A cheap transistor set with batteries is fine. Or you could get something that'll pick up TV and NOAA bands and that has a hand crank, like the Eton Grundig FR300 — it comes with a cell phone charging jack and built-in flashlight. If you want to splurge, see page 95.

    L. Cash $500 in small bills. ATMs won't work when the power is out, and neither will credit card readers.

    M. Documents A copy of your home insurance policy, plus contact numbers, medical insurance card, passport, driver's license, bank records, and photos of family members. (A local map and spare keys may come in handy, too.)

    N. Mylar space blanket It's a super-compact means of both keeping warm and reflecting heatstroke-causing rays of sun.

    O. Clothes Put spares in a waterproof bag. Remember a hat. Toss in a few basic toiletries, too, like a toothbrush and toilet paper.

    P. Food Make room for sports nutrition or candy bars. Nuts and trail mix are good options, too. Include a bottle of water.

    Q. Essential medicines Whatever you've been prescribed, plus sunblock and ibuprofen or acetaminophen.

    R. Duct tape Well, duh.

    S. Signal devices Roadside flares will do. Or you could get Greatland Laser's Rescue Laser Flare — two AA batteries and you have 72 hours of 20-mile-visible brightness. Also try the Fox 40 whistle (115 dB!).

    T. Multitool Whether you come down on the Swiss Army side or the Leatherman side of the greatest debate of our time, just have one with you. Make sure it has a can opener, a good knife blade, and both Phillips and flat-head screwdrivers.

    The Smarter Emergency Kit
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    There was another thread similar to this at one time..anyhow..

    A friend of mine gave me a book called The $50 And Up Underground House Book..his ideas on underground green-houses are very nice..

    Cut heating costs 80%
    Eliminate air-conditioning costs
    Shelter your family from:

    * Hurricane
    * Tornados
    * Earthquakes
    * Rampant Fire
    * Atomic Fallout
    * Mobs, gunfire, blasts, and similar results of social disintegration

    Build a home that is:

    * Wonderfully affordable
    * Easy to build
    * In tune with nature
    * Solar heatable
    * Light, airy, sun and view filled
    * Blissfully quiet

    Underground housing is a concept whose time has come again. Its advantages over above-ground housing are spectacular. It stays warm in the winter and cool in the summer. It blends in with nature rather than rearing above it. It can double the yard space in a city. To the neighbors it looks like a park. It is the most environmentally sound. It uses half the building materials. It is the safest form of housing: it is fire resistant, radiation resistant and is impervious to tornado and hurricane strength winds. It even does better in earthquakes.

    Where are the traditional tornado shelters located? Where are the fallout shelters? Where does an army go to defend itself? In a world that is increasingly hostile, it’s really nice to know that Mother Earth herself is providing your safety.

    http://www.undergroundhousing.com/
    Maybe I watched to many post-apocalyptic movies as a boy in the 80's, but the idea still stirs in me the thought of starting from scratch..it's just now called Ragnarok.

    Later,
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    I want to make a community doing something like this. Join me people!

    Here's some obvious books:

    This is a good book on how to grow your own food, butcher a pig, brew your own beer etc.

    http://www.amazon.com/Self-sufficien...3410270&sr=8-3

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    Americans seem to be much more 'up' on Survivalism than Europeans I've noticed. I suppose it's because guns are alien to most of us Brits and we (wrongly, probably) feel secure that our old country is unshakeable.

    However, I truly believe that dangerous times like closely ahead. We're overdue for something and I've been following the swell of global tension closely. An awful lot of people believe that martial law is just around the corner in the U.S. - and in my opinion it should be considering how well confirmed we've just had it that our Governments don't care what we think (and how undeniably unconstitutional the U.S. Government is) with the bailouts. People should be damn MAD and as soon as it starts showing, they'll march the troops right out.

    So thanks for all the links and info. I'm going to start preparing (more than I already have been).
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    the guy who wrote that book is English and now currently lives in Ireland completley off the grid. He gives people instruction on how to do it themselves so you can go visit him. But I'd rather have you come to America and help me upstart a community off the grid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyfing View Post
    There was another thread similar to this at one time..anyhow..

    A friend of mine gave me a book called The $50 And Up Underground House Book..his ideas on underground green-houses are very nice..



    Maybe I watched to many post-apocalyptic movies as a boy in the 80's, but the idea still stirs in me the thought of starting from scratch..it's just now called Ragnarok.

    Later,
    -Lyfing

    Wouldn't this be extremely expensive and take a long time to build? And I would be surprised if a city by-law actually allowed someone to build a home under the terrain.


    Might be possible in the countryside tho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom View Post
    Personally I see the whole Survivalism thing a bit defeatist in outlook:

    "Oooh, let's just wait for this enevitable apocalyptic situation!"
    You must find my world view a little defeatist too, perhaps also all Indo-European religions too. Sooner or later the snake is going to poison itself, it's up to us as to whether we survive the fallout. Natural disasters occur everywhere might I add.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom View Post
    The NZ Survivalists that I've conversed with over the internet seem to uphold the belief that society's gone wrong
    You disagree with this? I can certainly agree that society has gone wrong and would further say that it hasn't been right for over a thousand years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom View Post
    I won't attempt to down-play their preparedness. Being physically fit, knowing a martial art and simple common sense will get you a lot further than training with a paintball gun will (at least in a place where there are not many guns, like New Zealand).
    All practical training helps, I'm pretty sure the army wouldn't play out battle scenarios with live bullets.

    Considering the general mental state of most people today I’d rather ensure that I’m able to defend myself and those few close to me if anything goes wrong rather than wait for the handout and starve.
    "For the authentic revolutionary conservative, what really counts is to be faithful not to past forms and institutions, but rather to principles of which such forms and institutions have been particular expressions, adequate for a specific period of time and in a specific geographical area." Julius Evola - Men Among the Ruins

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