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    The Future of the European Union

    EU Constitution Takes Final German Hurdle

    A proposed constitution for the European Union has received the final approval in Germany after representatives from the 16 states voted in favor of the document on Friday.

    While the eyes of Europe are fixed on France, Berlin hoped its endorsement would play a part in convincing voters on the other side of the Rhine to give the draft their approval on Sunday as well.
    Germany is the ninth country to ratify the European Constitution. Austria, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Slovakia, Slovenia and Spain have already done so.

    The timing of the Bundesrat vote was chosen to send a signal to the draft's supporters of in France. But recent polls suggest it will not be enough to win over French sceptics who fear the charter will entrench a free-market model that puts capitalism ahead of social concerns.
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    Exclamation France rejects EU treaty

    Some breaking news:
    France rejects EU treaty, Europe faces crisis

    France overwhelmingly rejected the European Union's constitution in a referendum on Sunday, pollsters' projections showed, plunging the EU into crisis and dealing a possibly fatal blow to a pact designed to make it run smoothly.

    The heavy defeat dreaded by EU leaders could weaken France in the 25-member bloc, stall European integration and unsettle some financial markets. It also wounds President Jacques Chirac two years before presidential and parliamentary elections.

    Projections by three polling groups based on partial results from the referendum suggested around 55 percent of voters had opposed the EU's first constitution, designed to simplify decision-making following the Union's enlargement last year.

    Such a heavy defeat in a country that has long been one of the main pillars of the EU reduces the chances of a repeat vote, which French leaders had ruled out anyway before the referendum.
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    Post Re: France rejects EU treaty

    The Dutch will reject the constitution as well.

    In the Netherlands, the numbers are 54 percent against the treaty and only 27 percent in favor of it ahead of the June 1 referendum. Observers say a "no" vote in France would stop the constitution dead in its tracks.

    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,...590910,00.html
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    Post AW: Re: France rejects EU treaty

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff
    Somehow, the American media has linked this rejection to the inclusion of Turkey in the EU. What is the relationship, if any?
    According to a survey that was made on an echantion of 1000 people over 18 quite some time before the referendum, 20 % voted they would reject the constitution because of the Turkey issue. So IMO this is one factor. Of course there are others.

    Here is the survey (in French, but I tried and translated some parts). Other reasons mentioned are:

    The reasons those decided to vote 'yes' want to vote 'yes':

    Among the following reasons, which tempt you most to vote 'yes'?

    - because I support the European construction - 67 %
    - because I want France to remain strong in Europe - 58 %
    - because this Treaty may make things move in France - 29 %
    - because this Treaty has important positive points - 27 %
    - because the other European countries count on a "yes" from France - 16 %
    - because the politicians to which I feel close urge to vote "yes"- 14 %


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    The reasons those decided to vote 'no' want to vote 'no':

    Among the following reasons, which tempt you most to vote 'no'?

    - because this Treaty has considerably negative points - 40 %
    - because I want to express my dissatisfaction with the current situation - 37 %
    - because declining this Treaty may make things 'move' in France - 37 %
    - because this Treaty is particularly difficult to understand - 31 %
    - because a "no" will allow a reorientation of European politics - 26 %
    - because Europe is a threat to France's identity - 23 %
    - because of Turkey - 20 %
    - because the polticians to which I feel close urge to vote "no" - 10 %

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    The reasons a 'yes' vote would tempt the undecided:

    Among the following reasons, which tempt you most to vote 'yes'?

    - because I wish for France to remain strong in Europe 38 %
    - because I support the construction of Europe 32 %
    - because this Treaty may make things move in France 24 %
    - because the other European countries count on a "yes" from France - 11 %
    - because this Treaty has important positive points - 8 %
    - because the polticians to which I feel close urge to vote "yes" - 3 %

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    The reasons a 'no' vote would tempt the undecided:

    Among the following reasons, which tempt you most to vote 'yes'?

    - because this Treaty is particularly difficult to understand - 39 %
    - because I want to express my dissatisfaction with the current situation - 31 %
    - because this Treaty has considerably negative points - 18 %
    - because declining this Treaty may make things 'move' in France - 17 %
    - because of Turkey - 13 %
    - because a "no" will allow a reorientation of European politics - 11 %
    - because Europe is a threat to France's identity - 11 %
    - because the polticians to which I feel close urge to vote "no" - 2 %

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    Post Re: France rejects EU treaty

    Good on them

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    Post Re: France rejects EU treaty

    Quote Originally Posted by Discordia
    The Dutch will reject the constitution as well.

    In the Netherlands, the numbers are 54 percent against the treaty and only 27 percent in favor of it ahead of the June 1 referendum. Observers say a "no" vote in France would stop the constitution dead in its tracks.

    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,...590910,00.html
    Let's hope so. The government has spent over 3 million euro on the "yes" campaign. I've no idea where all that money went. On top of that, government officials have been trying to scare people into voting for the Constitution. One minister went as far as to claim civil war could erupt if the people voted "no".
    Last edited by Siegfried; Monday, May 30th, 2005 at 08:57 AM. Reason: I need math classes :/

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    Post Re: France rejects EU treaty

    If only American voters were as astute at rejecting being bamboozled by their own tricky yet incompetent mainstream politicians. Good for the French, and hopefully the Dutch.

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    Post Re: France rejects EU treaty

    Quote Originally Posted by Discordia
    The Dutch will reject the constitution as well.
    You can count on that! Although, unlike in France, our referendum won't be binding.


    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried
    Let's hope so. The government has spent over 3 million euro on the "yes" campaign.
    We can only guess...

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    Post France's Le Pen, de Villiers urge Chirac to quit

    France's Le Pen, de Villiers urge Chirac to quit
    Sun May 29, 2005 9:29 PM BST


    PARIS (Reuters) - French far-right leader Jean-Marie Le Pen and eurosceptic Philippe de Villiers urged President Jacques Chirac to quit on Sunday after television projections showed France had rejected the European Union constitution.
    Chirac said before the referendum that he would not quit after the vote. But Le Pen called on Chirac to "draw the normal consequences".



    © Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved.


    http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=20 05-05-29T202945Z_01_KNE973763_RTRUKOC_0_EU-FRANCE-EUROSCEPTICS.xml

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