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    Third World Nations: Can Germanics Learn Something from Them?

    Here I want to discuss a subject which was briefly touched in another thread. I am going to quote a couple of posts from there:
    Quote Originally Posted by skyhawk View Post
    Have we been trying to help.............. in a word no.

    The Third World nations have been systematically robbed of the wealth created from their natural resources and their populations forced to endure dire poverty , disease , civil war ( usually as a result of unpopular western backed oligarchies ).

    You must have noticed the reactions by western governments to any Third World leaderships that seek to address any of the above mentioned problems.

    They all get destroyed.

    We can see it now with Chavez , but he is just the latest of a mass of Third World leaders who have been demonised and ultimately overthrown or assassinated by western agencies. Their crime ? A wish and will to tackle the grave problems faced by their people. It's not that they are unable to dig themselves out of the hole , it's that they are forcefully prevented from doing so by the western nations.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    Venezuela has a nationalistic regime, unlike the BRD or the UK. We could learn more from its examples.
    In your view, could we learn something from the third world nations and what would that be? I'd say the nationalistic, tribalistic approach and the original care for the environment are points forte. Perhaps the third world nations would have been better off if we hadn't interfered. What's your view?

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    Yes, I think we can learn at least from the way they express without fear. Chávez and Castro are confessed socialists (well, Castro was, he's dead now) but they had many nationalistic attitudes that made uncle ZOG angry, like the nationalization of natural resources, reinforcement of the forntiers and even ethnical preservation. Chavez goes for a Latinoamerican nation, based on Amerindian and some Afroamerican heritage, with him as a leader. I really don't see why should he be blamed for thinking that, he's noticeable Amerindian admix and is defending his blood.
    In Cuba, the Revolution had the the very wise idea of giving their people one of the best health systems in the world, and an educational program with a really high level in mathematics and language. In Cuba folklorical expressions are encouraged in detriment of globalized culture.
    In Bolivia, Evo Morales is a moderate preservationist/nationalist. In this last months he ordered the army to take control over the oil and gas sources and oblied Spain, Brazil and Argentina to deal with him. I say he's a moderate preservationist because although wanting his race to rule again in Bolivia, he hasn't been able to turn down the white oligarchy and I believe he doesn't want to (due to the peril of civil war). The ultra-nationalist Bolivian Amerindian movement, leadered by Mamani, stablishes that whites should be kept in reservations just like Amerindians are kept in reservations today. Again, isn't that what we should be doing, even in such extremist cases?. Quechuas and Aymaras have managed to include without problems the word "race" in their speeches, they constantly speak of the preservation of their race, and no one tilts them of being racists or bigots.
    But if you ask me which Third World nation excels today, that's Brazil. They have a potential much bigger than India or South Africa to become a world power. To the inside, there are problems between the rich South and the poor North, but from the frontiers to the outside they are Brazil. Lula da Silva had already stod up before USA and Spain because of weapon sales and immigration.

    What I previously said doesn't mean that ThridWorld countries are going to surpass Europe (at least in this years), but just imagine how would Europe be if it would have half of the pride these countries show. In general I don't like the leftist ideals the mentioned leaders have, but I would be very narrow minded if I don't admit that they did some good moves.

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    Well I stand by my statement earlier in this thread and have very good reasons and evidence to back it up. I believe it is arrogant to believe that other people are somehow incapable of thinking of better ways to do things. I think an open mind is the best way to progress .

    I also think that any debate concerning Third World nations should be approached with the baggage ( racism ) left behind from colonial days put firmly behind any wouldbe willing participants. IE if you can't see other races as people ,what are the chances of listening to what they have to say ?

    That's something more people could learn ,imo.

    I think we can learn very much from the Third Worlders. For instance the collapse of the Soviets caused Cuba to ,more or less overnight, adapt to the cut off of a country's oil supply.
    They suffered tremendous disruption/semi collapse as would be expected of almost every nation today in the same circumstances ( never mind the US imposed embargo running along side ). That was in 1993/4. It would be three/four years before Chavez would offer help and swap Venezuelan oil for Cuban doctors. They survived what they refer to as the special period ( post soviet support ).
    They are a very resourceful people ,they have had to be for nearly half a century due to the western imposed sanctions. In short they have been to places and endured things we haven't and that's why we can learn from them.

    Their thriftiness during this extremely tough time has become a benchmark case for people/groups who study things like self sustaining communities , alternative energy and so on. Their consensus sees nothing but praise for the Cuban adaptation to a fuel cut off.

    "We wanted to see if we could capture what it is in the Cuban people and the Cuban culture that allowed them to go through this very difficult time," said Pat Murphy, The Community Solution's executive director. "Cuba has a lot to show the world in how to deal with energy adversity."
    more on the story..........http://globalpublicmedia.com/articles/657

    I must also say that it's not just about what we can learn from others it's very much about what we learn about ourselves during the interaction

    We can for instance learn how the likes of the IMF , World Bank , WTO etc work to ensure that Third World nations stay firmly in the gutter of human life on earth. Any discussion that avoids their impact on the life conditions , for what is the majority of the worlds population , of Third World nations is not worth having.
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    Supporting the Third World is just hurting it more. They will never learn self sufficiency if there is an obscene amount of money constantly being poured into their country, propping up their ZOG assigned leaders who simply maintain the status quo, which sadly isn't a status quo worth maintaining.

    We can't learn a significant thing from them (except perhaps in regards to cultural/racial/historical studies, since they tend to be somewhat less known to Western sciences). We overcame the problems they face thousands of years ago. If anything, we can learn the horrid effects of primitivism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier of Wodann View Post
    Supporting the Third World is just hurting it more. They will never learn self sufficiency if there is an obscene amount of money constantly being poured into their country, propping up their ZOG assigned leaders who simply maintain the status quo, which sadly isn't a status quo worth maintaining.

    We can't learn a significant thing from them (except perhaps in regards to cultural/racial/historical studies, since they tend to be somewhat less known to Western sciences). We overcame the problems they face thousands of years ago. If anything, we can learn the horrid effects of primitivism.
    The whole point is that we aren't supporting them , we are keeping them in arrested development by the weapons of the IMF , World Bank , etc.

    War by other means. You only have to look at the profits of Western corporations to see where the money goes , it's not rocket science.

    Vastly more money flows out than flows in. Maybe you won't learn a significant thing from them but that doesn't mean that others can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyhawk View Post
    Maybe you won't learn a significant thing from them but that doesn't mean that others can't.
    Well, I suppose some Western people are still stuck in a stage of primitivism as well. Perhaps they would be the best of friends with these Third Worlders. Oh wait, they already are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier of Wodann View Post
    Well, I suppose some Western people are still stuck in a stage of primitivism as well.
    I agree , and as I said earlier they will gain little from participating in this thread or others like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    In your view, could we learn something from the third world nations
    Yes.

    and what would that be?
    Simple. The kind of cesspools our countries will turn into if we continue to embrace this diverse, raceless identity and allow more of their immigrants, asylum seekers, refugees and the like into our countries.

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