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    New Research Refutes Myth of Pure Scandinavian Race

    A team of forensic scientists at the University of Copenhagen has studied human remains found in two ancient Danish burial grounds dating back to the iron age, and discovered a man who appears to be of arabian origin. The findings suggest that human beings were as genetically diverse 2000 years ago as they are today and indicate greater mobility among iron age populations than was previously thought. The findings also suggest that people in the Danish iron age did not live and die in small, isolated villages but, on the contrary, were in constant contact with the wider world.

    On the southern part of the island of Zealand in Denmark, lie two burial grounds known as Bøgebjerggård and Skovgaarde, which date back to the Danish iron age (c. 0-400 BC). Linea Melchior and forensic scientists from the University of Copenhagen analysed the mitocondrial DNA of 18 individuals buried on the sites and found that there was as much genetic variation in their remains as one would expect to find in individuals of the present day. The research team also found DNA from a man, whose genetic characteristics indicate a man of Arabian origin.
    The ancestors of the Danes were in contact with the wider world

    Archeologists and anthropologists know today that the concept of a single scandinavian genetic type, a scandinavian race that wandered to Denmark, settled there, and otherwise lived in complete isolation from the rest of the world, is a fallacy.

    "If you look at the geographic position of Denmark, "then it becomes clear that the Danes must have been in contact with other peoples," says scientist, Linea Melchior. "We know from other archeological excavations that there was a good deal of trade and exchange of goods between Denmark and other parts of Scandinavia and Europe. These lines of communication must have extended further south as one of the Danish burial grounds, which dates back to the iron age also contained the remains of a man, who appears to have been of arabian origin.
    People from distant lands were absorbed in Danish iron age communities

    At the beginning of the Danish iron age, the roman legions were based as far north as the river Elbe (on the border of northern Germany) and it is thought that the man of arabian descent found in the burial grounds in Southern Zealand would have either been a slave or a soldier in the roman army. It is probable that he possessed skills or special knowledge, which the people in Bøgebjerggård or Skovgaard settlements could make use of, or he could have been the descendant of a female of arabian origin, who for reasons unknown, had crossed the river Elbe and settled down with the inhabitants of Zealand.

    "This discovery is comparable to the findings of a colleague of mine, who found a person of siberian origin on the Kongemarke site," continues scientist, Linea Melchior. He was buried on consecrated ground, just as the circumstances of the arab man's burial was identical to that of the locals. The discovery of the arab man indicates that people from distant parts of the world could be and were absorbed in Danish communities.
    The iron age peoples moved away from their place of birth

    "All of our ancestors, no matter when they arrived have contributed to our history and the development of our lifestyle," explains Linea Melchior. "Indeed, Danish identity is more a definition of where one is physically located and lives today than a question of our past history - since we're all originally african in origin. That we ended up in Europe was accidental, which is in itself remarkable".

    "Another interesting feature of the approximately 50 graves assessed so far on the two sites and also from other burial sites and time periods in Danish history is that none of the individuals seem to be maternally related to one another", explains Linea Melchior. "We couldn't see any large families buried in the same location. This suggests that in the Danish iron age, people didn't live and die in the villages of their birth, as we had previously imagined".

    The findings have been published in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology 135:206-215 (2008) and PLoS One 3(5): e2214........

    An interesting article. It seems we are actually using genetics to justify our own destruction.

    Hooray for science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer View Post
    Hooray for science.
    Hooray for Jewish activism (Melchior? Come on now!) and sublime manipulation and projection:

    “Indeed, Danish identity is more a definition of where one is physically located and lives today than a question of our past history – since we’re all originally african in origin. That we ended up in Europe was accidental, which is in itself remarkable”.

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    God, these are always amusing. But as you said, we are now justifying our destruction through this "science".
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer View Post
    An interesting article. It seems we are actually using genetics to justify our own destruction.
    PR, not genetics. The article states that "five of the ten subjects harbour mtDNA haplotypes which have either not been observed or are infrequent in modern Scandinavians. In particular the observation of haplotype X2c is interesting. Haplogroup X is itself rare (0.9% in Scandinavians) but has a very wide geographic range, and X2c is a rare subgroup of X accounting for only 5% of 175 Hg X samples surveyed in 2003. A possible European (Viking?) origin of haplotype X2a identified among Native Americans has been suggested, but X2a has not been detected in Europe and the present observation of X2c amongst the Vikings does not support this proposal.

    Among present day Scandinavians Hg I constitutes <2%, however, we have previously observed a markedly higher frequency (10–20%) of Hg I in Danish Iron Age and Viking Age population samples. With the observation of Hg I for subject G6 this trend is also seen for the Viking population sample from Galgedil. Interestingly, Hg I shows a low frequency (1 out of 114 subjects) among other ancient populations in Italy, Spain, Great Britain, and early central European farmers."

    I must admit, I'm very impressed: they found 5 foreigners in a Danish grave from the 10th century!

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    I think the article wouldn't have been made if they had found a Chinese or a Hindu, when i read it it is like they want to hint at the current mass immigration of arabs into Denmark and justify this by going back in time, i find this article so weird that seeing the current relation between Denmark and muslims that i wonder if it is true, and indeed Melchior is a jewish lastname so he shouldn't say ''we'' and the title of the article says it all, lets say to him that there is no pure Jewish race and watch him cry racism.

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    One Arab in Denmark thousands of years ago shows nothing about "racial purity" (who even claims "racial purity" exists?), unless they found such Arab-origin markers widespread amongst people of that time or among Danes today (of course not). That the Iron Age Danes accepted this person who had a useful skill or knowledge and then honored him with a dignified burial doesn't say they were globalists or multicultural, rather it says they were decent people who honored those who served them.

    Indeed, Danish identity is more a definition of where one is physically located and lives today than a question of our past history - since we're all originally african in origin.
    What a contradiction! Origin is not important, except when it is pointing to Africa. eyes:

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    Atlantic megaliths are also to be found in Denmark ( and further east) since obviously, being on the western seaboard, people could easily travel northwards - as they could travel to the south whenever they needed to. And who knows what the Romans brought along with them as they travelled up into the northern seas ( if not into the interior!). One swallow clearly doesnt imply an invasion force! This sounds all too hysterical to be meaningful science. Discount.

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    Wow, suddenly I realize I must be part arabian. It all makes sense, because this arabian guy was once buried here in my homeland! WOW!! It proves everything!!
    I wonder if there are any danish bones to be found somewhere else in the world! Allah forbid it, but maybe even in the middle east! That would make them all vikings!!

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    My Gods, People! Don't believe this!

    Vingolf already explained it, but I believe there is a place for a more layman's interpretation:

    The mitochondrial stuff dates from millenia ago, from even the very first peopling of Europe! The man is NOT an Arab! He just has a string of DNA (in the little blobs in his cells which turn sugar into energy, and thus not even from the man's nucleus, and therefore not even from his chromosomes, and nothing to do with his external appearance, or even his internal nature beyond that of the mitochondria themselves!) that is statistically more common in Arabs than Norsemen, but which DOES and ALWAYS DID exist in Norsemen and their ancestors too!

    Genetics is fashionable, and is reported on by people who are ignorant, or willfully deceptive. BE CRITICAL! If something seems ridiculous on the surface of it, it often is ridiculous!

    And by the way, the far less fashionable discipline of physical anthropology might have had something worth hearing to say about the remains, but its verdicts are strikingly absent... What a surprise! eyes:

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