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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatest View Post
    That being said, Germany will be looking to Russia as a future partner especially if Germany can shake off this liberal disease. I think we can deal with Russia, and my interests are in Germany's well being, Germany's lands and Volk.
    I do not want Germany in the business of protecting little nations or repeating mistakes like Yugoslavia.

    Germany needs a stronger military and OUT of NATO , as NATO only serves to control Germany.
    NATO was originally constructed to prevent the USSR from overrunning West Germany and taking it over. Now that there is no more USSR, this is not needed, and instead it seems to be aimed at pushing Russia back as far as possible by integrating former eastern bloc countries or even former Soviet states.
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    I read that whole thing as "We are so afraid that Germany and Russia will get closer together".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Kouchner Herr Minister.

    NATO- poison to Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    NATO was originally constructed to prevent the USSR from overrunning West Germany and taking it over. Now that there is no more USSR, this is not needed, and instead it seems to be aimed at pushing Russia back as far as possible by integrating former eastern bloc countries or even former Soviet states.









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    Quote Originally Posted by Anfang View Post
    I read that whole thing as "We are so afraid that Germany and Russia will get closer together".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Kouchner Herr Minister.

    NATO- poison to Germany.
    It's really the only thing that saved them after the end of WWII until the end of the Cold War, or else some pretext would have been found to place all of Germany under Soviet control, and possibly other countries as well (which is why they joined NATO)

    Now, the idea is to encircle Russia by expanding NATO to encompass countries like Poland, Ukraine, Georgia, and the Baltics-countries which properly belong under Russian dominion. This can't possibly end well if it is kept up, as it will end up getting the US sucked into a totally unnecessary war with Russia over some piss ant country like Georgia or Latvia.
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    "Baltic Way" is the event which occurred on August 23, 1989 when approximately two million people joined their hands to form an over 600 kilometer long human chain across the three Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania). This original demonstration was organized to draw the world's attention to the common historical fate which these three countries suffered. It marked the 50 year anniversary since August 23, 1939 when Soviet Union and Germany in the secret protocol of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact divided spheres of interest in Eastern Europe which led to 50 years of occupation for these three states.
    Baltic Way / August 23, 1989

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    countries like Poland, Ukraine, Georgia, and the Baltics-countries which properly belong under Russian dominion.
    I'd rather not see any of these countries dominated by Russia, nor anyone else really. Or atleast not Poland and the Baltic states. Ukraine and Georgia are a toss-up.

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    This shows the distribution of I across Europe. Among the Baltics it is more present in the Finns and Estonians. However, the Latvians and Lithuanians have more R1a.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I_(Y-DNA)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geribeetus View Post
    On another forum I post on, the Estonians said upwards of 90% of his school's population has light eyes with light hair, whereas the Slavic population was quite the opposite. While light features aren't alone enough to assume they are racially not too dissimilar from ourselves, I've seen plenty of pictures as well. They are predominately East-Baltic, however, but very noticeable Mongoloid features are rare as far as I can tell. Many of them might fit in in East Germany.

    Can't say much about Latvians and Lithuanians though, don't know much about them. Probably don't look too much different though. Shame the Russians are trying to exterminate them though. Another Mongol invasion as far as I'm concerned.
    The Baltic Finns are among the most, if not the most blonde and blue eyed people in Europe. Check out this information.
    http://pages.globetrotter.net/peter_...-eye-color.htm
    http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.c..._hair_map1.jpg
    http://westernparadigm.wordpress.com...map-of-europe/
    http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/troemap8.jpg

    As for their racial features and classification they are according to Carleton Coon the only anthropologist of that era worth mentioning, predominantly of Nordic race.
    http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/troemap9.jpg

    In head size the Finns and Estonians are inextinguishable from Norwegians, Danes and Swedes.
    http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/troemap7.jpg

    The majority of Finns and Estonians are long-skulled having a cephalic index between 73 and 81. The Estonians and the Finns are more long-skulled than the Danes and the Germans and slightly more broad-skulled than the Swedes and Norwegians.
    http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/troemap6.jpg

    In body stature the Finns and Estonians are tall like the Norwegians, Danes and Swedes.
    http://carnby.altervista.org/troe/08-03.htm
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    Conclusion: The Finns and Estonians are physically more close to the Scandinavians than are many Germanic speaking people i.e the Germans, Swiss, Austrians and English.

    Even genetically the Finns cluster very closely to Germanic speaking people.
    http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2008/08/gen...rope-again.php

    It´s pathetic that language alone should be the indicater used to detemine which group or family people belong to. Swedes and Norwegians have a lot more in common with Finns and Estonians than they do with Bavarians or Austrians.

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    The blond stereotype about Russians couldn't be more false. Almost every Russian I've met had been dark haired. The few exceptions that were blond, obviously had Asiatic facial features.



    This stereotype was created through Hollywood and to a lesser extent in the Soviet Union.
    The ''Blond Ukrainian Tractor Girl" being a popular example of Soviet propaganda. If you've met Ukrainians, you'll find that most of them are dark Dinarids (Neo-Danubian in Coon's terminology) or Eastern Alpines; very few are blond and even less are Nordoid.


    And in Hollywood, such as in the Hunt for Red October, or even older films, often or not, most of the ''Russian characters'' are cast with Celtic (Gaelic) or German actors.

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    What about Finnish epicanthic folds?

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