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Thread: Just How Germanic is Britain/England?

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhydderch
    Interesting. I would'nt say they look particularly Germanic and as you said it's eastern Suffolk, which one would expect to be one of the most Germanic areas of England.
    Only two or three of them have truly blond hair but this is also a feature of one of the Bronze Age types which entered England in pre-Celtic times.
    Yeah, not all of them were born here though, one person their was actually from a remote town in northern Scotland.

    Its just a bit of data i thought might be usefull in this thread as most of it was coming from old surveys or something,

    btw noones guessed which one is me yet

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhydderch
    Interesting. I would'nt say they look particularly Germanic and as you said it's eastern Suffolk, which one would expect to be one of the most Germanic areas of England.
    Only two or three of them have truly blond hair but this is also a feature of one of the Bronze Age types which entered England in pre-Celtic times.
    Yeah, not all of them were born here though, one person their was actually from a remote town in northern Scotland.

    Its just a bit of data i thought might be usefull in this thread as most of it was coming from old surveys or something, id go out and take pictures of people here, but then they might beat me up .

    btw noones guessed which one is me yet

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    Sorry got bored .

    Circled is me.

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    Well was me when i was 13 .

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Volksdeutscher
    One thing is certain. The Celts who came to Britain were not the Celts of Broca, Lagneau, and Dally. They were Germanokelten, not Gallokelten; essentially Nordid, not Alpinid. It follows that in all probability they were mainly fair-haired, though some of the Celtae who had Alpinids among their ancestors may have had pale brown hair, and exact uniformity in this respect would anyhow not be expected."
    The Gallic Celts (or Gallokelten if you wish) were not Alpinids. Most of them were of the usual Celtic type and their skeletons are virtually indistinguishable from the Iron Age skeletons found in Britain and Ireland; i.e the skull is low-vaulted with a pronouncedly sloping forehead, low mesocephaly and an upper face relatively long in proportion to the lower face; a fairly shallow mandible.

    Here's a link to a site with a picture of a Gaul from Roman sculpture:
    http://www.data-wales.co.uk/celt6.htm

    Although it's from an unusual angle I think it sufficiently shows that he's of the Keltic
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    I also doubt that British and Gaulish Celts were fair-haired. The Romans described them as tall, blue-eyed and with milk-white skin colour. But one writer said that although their hair was blond, it was not naturally so; they bleached it with lime.

    Some have said that this indicates they regarded blondism as ideal; I think this is unlikely though, because Celtic legends frequently liken the ideal appearance to a raven eating an animal on the snow. The skin colour is likened to the snow, the colour of the cheeks or lips to the animal's blood, and the hair colour to that of the raven.
    Whilst I doubt that the Celts were predominantly raven-black haired, I think these legends indicate that there was some tendency towards it. I would guess that Celts were generally darkish brown haired.

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    The most R1a country in Europe is I believe Ukraine, if that is vicking/nordic haplogroup then the most nordic country in europe is...ukraine!
    R1a is only designated as a Viking haplogroup in terms of assessing recent genetic contributions to the population of Great Britain from Western Scandinavian migrations.

    Perhaps I should have clarified this earlier to avoid confusion.

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    I wish to correct Vitor on two point. "Republic" has nothing to do with kings The Romans established a republic by overthrowing their, probably Etruscan, kings. Republic is derived from res publica, the public matter or, literally, the public thing. Second, there was nothing British about the Normans. They had been Northmen, vikings who settled in Normandy and adopted the French language and customs.

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    Sorry to have belabored the res publica business. Somehow, I overlooked page two where this point was discussed at almost onerous length.

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Vitor
    The BEST genes for discovering afinnities are in the Y-chromossome and mitochondrial!
    Why?
    Because mutation is low in this genes (lower in the Y-chromossome...maybe 1 mutation in 30000 years)...and there are NO RECOMBINATION with this genes!
    They can nevertheless paint a grossly distorted picture of a nation's genetic make-up. For example: a person who is but 1/16 Japanese can have an entirely Japanese Y-chromosome or mitochondrium if he has a Japanese ancestor through the paternal or maternal line, respectively. If the other 15/16 is Swedish, this person has racially much more in common with Swedes than with Japanese, yet Y-chromosome or mitochondrial research will group this person with the Japanese. When it comes to racial affinity, you have to look at the whole picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EgilSkallagrimsson
    I wish to correct Vitor on two point. "Republic" has nothing to do with kings The Romans established a republic by overthrowing their, probably Etruscan, kings. Republic is derived from res publica, the public matter or, literally, the public thing. Second, there was nothing British about the Normans. They had been Northmen, vikings who settled in Normandy and adopted the French language and customs.
    According to some historians, Normans were local french mixed with vickings and a lot of britains (a lot), that was why the Arthur legend survived and thrived in northern france.

    It was "injected" again In Britain by Normans. maybe this was just a smart way to conquer the non anglo british by normans...
    To get allies from those in the west.

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