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Thread: Just How Germanic is Britain/England?

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried
    Replace 'Britain' and 'British' with 'England' and 'English', respectively, and I agree.
    The English are Anglo-Saxon and obviously Germanic. But the Irish and Scots where also influenced by Germanic elements when the Vikings settled there in the 12 and 13 centuries.

    Besides surely there's been a certain degree of Celtic/Germanic blending that has taken place through the centuries and especially nowadays.

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Vitor
    the only thing germanic is the language.
    the culture is no way connected with ancient germanic land, the culture is more roman than you think.

    but granted britain have some vicking and saxon blood in some areas.
    What about the Anglo-Saxon English? Princess Diana wasn't Germanic? That's news for me. The Culture is a mixture of many influences. But you don't have to look hard to see the Germanic influences.

    British law is in many ways Germanic. I could give you an example but I am running out of time! I am going to miss my classes....

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    There are some famous Brits who look Mediterranid, e.g. Andy Griffin, Terry Jones, Gordon Brown, Charles Shaughnessy, Tim Henman, Ben Miles, Ioan Gruffudd, Hugh Dancy and Clive Owen. Sure, they do exist, but I don't encounter such types on a daily basis and I don't think that they are a significant proportion of the English people. I believe that they are almost as rare as a Nordid Sicilian or Greek.
    obviously!
    10000 years of nordic climate do CHANGE the phenotype!

    Again that doesn't say ANYTHING of population relationship!

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    That is not true. It's at least not my experience. I have lived in both Sweden and England, and there's a similarity in the mentality. There's a good reason why people who come from the Swedish society can easily live in England, and then I don't just mean in a student home near Hackney. I think that you are seeing things that are not there. Have you ever lived in England?

    Germanic culture and influence dominated over most of what is now England. I'm sure that Milesian would agree.

    FadeTheButcher made some important quotes (I can't confirm the sources though).

    "It is apparent that little can be said in favour of the early Germanic legal process. Yet German law made one great contribution to western civilisation in its political implications. Roman law found origin in the will of the despotic emperor and favoured political absolutism. The king had no control over Germanic law; his only legal function was to see that the community courts met and decided cases, and even in this regard his contribution was negligable. Germanic law was based on the principle that law resided in the folk, that law was the custom of the community, and that the king could not change this law without the assent of the community. Because of this difference between Germanic and Roman law and because England, even in the High Middle Ages, remained relatively untouched by Roman law, the Victorian historians found the origin of English parliamentary institutions and the idea of the rule of law in the forests of Germany. Although it has been fashionable among twentieth century writers to scoff at this interpretation, there is an element of truth in it. The Victorians, with their organic conception of institutional development, erred in thinking that the great oak of English liberalism grew inevitably out of the acorn of German law. There was nothing inevitable about this development; in 1200 England appeared to be going in the direction of absolutism, and it took centuries of experience and political strife before the legislative supremacy of Parliament triumphed. But it is true that from German law England received a legal heritage of supremacy of the community over the king. All western European countries could have drawn upon the same legal tradition. But after 1100 the Roman principle of legal absolutism slowly won out on the Continent, whereas England alone preserved the early Germanic idea that law resides in the folk, rather than in the will of the king."

    Norman F. Cantor, The Civilisation of the Middle Ages (New York: HarperPerennial, 1994), pp.98-99

    "England was the only country whose legal system did not come heavily under the influence of the Justinian code. While the civil law was beginning to penetrate into the juristic systems of Germany and France in the twelfth century, English law went off in another direction, developing both institutions and principles that were remarkably different from the theory and procedure of Roman law. The departure had a profound effect on both the later government and law of England, and it constitutes one of the outstanding ways in which the intellectual changes of the twelfth century influenced th subsequent course of European history. Therefore, no study of the twelfth century can avoid the question of why England developed its own non-Roman legal system."

    Ibid., p.315

    http://www.stormfront.org/archive/t-159001England's_Germanic_Culture.html




    Quote Originally Posted by Vitor
    the only thing germanic is the language.
    the culture is no way connected with ancient germanic land, the culture is more roman than you think.

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Volksdeutscher
    He didn't mean that the rest of the nation is predominantly non-Nordid.
    So what he ment?


    He was mentioning the Göta type. It's from a passage where Lundman want to say that the facial form is not related to the Height-Length Index. He also claimed that v. Eickstedt's division between "teuto"- and Phalian Nordids is fairly meanignless if one want see a deeper meaning than the phenotypical-morphological. Nordid in Germany was according to Nordenstreng more often like Trönder, and in England Göta, which I think makes a lot of sense.
    Ok, but how it how it makes Britons Nordic? Do you have a quote from Lundman that Britons are Nordic, not NE England and neighbouring SE Scotland population, but all Britons?

    There is Mediterranid in parts of southwestern England. The issue is that the regions that make up the largest percentage of the English population are very blonde and morphologically Nordid. It's true though that people of western parts of Great Britain and Ireland show darker hair with lighter eyes, whereas you find the opposite in eastern Europe. Lundman (1977) wrote that "the most strongly depigmented Europid races are found in the cool-damp northwest part of the continent".
    Britons have more than 30% of pure brown eyes and very little fair and light-brown hair. Most of blondism is concentrated in SE, where CI and NI are higher.

    There are parts in Britain which are remarkably Med, but the Med element is widespread all over Britain.

    Once again, even if we recognize Swedes as ideal Nordics (well, they're far from the Nordic ideal) Britons are waaaaay less depigmented, and closer to Italians. How they can be Nordic? Or yu want to say that dark brown shades and brown and heavily mixed eyes are Nordic? Swedish anthropologists beg to differ.

    Sure, NE England and SE Scotland are Nordic for Lundman, as eastern coasts of Britain are very close to Scandinavia when it comes to pigmentation...

    Nyessen that I have quoted (on the Nordidness of the English) was Dutch.
    First of all, it's obvious that Nyssen was talking about Nordids, not Nordics. For Nyssen and, for example, for Guenther the Nordid type included UP and mixed Nordic/UP types as well.

    Second, Nyssen is obviously a lay man.

    He wrote that "The English population of today must be regarded as Nordic due to the tall stature, fair hair, and long headedness"

    Well, where did he see fair hair? It was just a figment of his imagination.

    Guenther was right when he was talking about the Med presence in Britain.

    http://www.white-history.com/earlson/hfk/reoechap6.htm

    Taking the whole of the British Isles, including the districts which were above called dark, the Nordic strain must not be underestimated; we may adopt the following proportions for these islands: Nordic blood, 55 to 60 per cent.; Mediterranean, 30 per cent.; Alpine, 10 per cent.
    He underestimated the Med presence thou. There are 30% of only pure Meds (= 30% of brown eyes), but a lot more of Med blood is diluted in individuals of heavily mixed eyes. So for sure the Med component is signficantly more than 30%.

    Lundman had most of England as Nordid.
    How he had it? do you have a quote?

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by LupaFreo
    You know that because of the multicultural BBC? You mustn't watch too much TV or it'll poison your brain. So you've never been to the UK then, you just hate the English anyway and can't stand to be associated with us by saying we're not Nordic.
    I don't count multicultural indivduals I see on BBC Prime, only native Britons :-)

    It's the first time anyone described us as "swarthy" though,
    Oh, no, it's just the first time you heard about it.

    considering that we're the palest skinned Europeans with a variety of hair colours, mostly blond, medium brown and brownish-red hair.
    Mostly blond? LOL

    The absolute majority of Britons are dark brown, acc. to charts made by British anthropologists.

    Also the vast majority of the native British have light eyes.
    30% have pure brown eyes, and many more have heavily light mixed eyes.

    Celts and Saxons make up the population, and no way are we all "dark and swarthy" blacks.
    you're rather swarthy to my trained eye

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Ross
    I don't count multicultural indivduals I see on BBC Prime, only native Britons :-)
    What makes you qualified to make that call, considering you've never even been there?

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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Ross
    BBC Prime is more than enough to understand that Britain is far from being Nordic.

    Or you're one of those Inet rednecks who imagine that people living in a Northern country is Nordic by definition? LOL How's about Lapps? But, hold on, even they are blonder than your swarthy com-patriots...
    I dont live in an Asian borderland but in England.I think that qualifies me to pass a more accurate judgement on the country than you.
    How many times have you been to England or Britain and where did you visit?
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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    Quote Originally Posted by Vitor
    this is true...but not because you are descendent mostly from the celts or saxons...
    Go on, enlighten us!
    Btw how often have you travelled to England or Britain?
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    Post Re: Britain is not GERMANIC

    I agree i think you have to have actually been somewhere to explain to others what its like.

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