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    There are strong Celtic influences in Iceland. The metric system used by our poets used the Gaelic metric system and not the norse one.

    Many placenames in Iceland are of Celtic origins.

    We also had a strong littarature quickly compared to other norse lands who is without doupt because of Irish influences.

    The story of Búi and his dog in the Sagas is clearly a story influenced by the tale of Cuchulainn (the Dog of Culainn) the hero of Irish mythology.

    And we have many names of Celtic origins, Njáll being one then words like tarfur and tunna (the barrel being a Gaulish invention named Tunna in Gaulish), kerra also etc etc.

    We in Iceland try hard to be americans and use american slang, taking behaviour and expressions from the movies and TV. We did not need immigrants to change. And is changing such a bad thing?

    I am proud of my language and roots but we can not just stay witout moving.

    Personaly I like a lot of things from America, but it does not change who I am, it only makes me more rich and open.

    And let us not forget that the Norse had no problem in adapting to diverse changes .

    The Germans of today are also a mix as we are. When many Germanic people moved westward there was a space for Slavonic tribes to take part of their ancient homalands, they were went as far westward as the the elbe river.

    The Prussians come from a Baltic non Germanic people.

    They took up the German language trough the Teutonic knights but were not Germans.

    So are these descendents of Slavonic and Baltic people not Germans?

    Not forgetting the Celtic people staying in southern modern Germany who adopted the Germanic language.

    Mixing is not a bad thing.

    And for the culture it can only die if the people themselves let it die and that has nothing to do with immigrants.

    The Icelandic kids who speak to teach other in english, because they think it is more fancy, do not need any help from foreigners to lose their language.

    And the Germanic people who moved westwards when the Roman empire was in ruins and lost in a few generations their original Germanic language, adopting the fancy language of the Roman empire like many Icelandic kids are adopting english, were they still Germanic?

    Who is Germanic? A descendent of Slavonic-Baltic peopole speaking a Germanic language or a Germanic person speaking a non Germanic language?

    This is all complicated.

    Will we in Iceland be Icelandic if we speak English? Would we be Icelandic if we had adopted Danish?

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    Unfortunately the Nordic countries which the racialists think are most free from foreign influence, Iceland and the Faroes, are going to be the first to succumb to multiculturalism. A small population and many natives eager to "change", i.e. become xenophilic and drop their heritage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drekinn View Post
    Todesengel us Icelanders are a mixture of Norwegian men and Irish women. Are you saying we have no identity as Icelanders because of that mixture?

    That mixture took place over a 1,000-years ago & besides the Norse & Gaelic Celts were closely related from a racial perspective.

    If you don't mind 30 Palestinians, what would you say to 30 Somali Bantus or 30 Hmong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drekinn View Post
    Icelanders went to Canada, 15 000 of them to be exact and that country has had benefice from that migration.

    The English received after 1066 a number of people from Normandy who immigrated to England after 1066 and with them came men from Brittany and other parts of modern day France..

    The result is the English language a beautifull language that would have sounded like Dutch if not for that migration, and it´s just my personal view that English is a much more beautifull language than Dutch is.

    The Normans of Normandy themselves gained much from immigration. The Neustrians were a people of a mixed heritage of Gallo-romans or Romanised Celts and of Saxon and Frankish immigrants. They all gained a lot by learning from each other. Then came the Danes and some numbers of Norwegians who settled Neustria creating Normandy.

    Normandy was a state that gained a lot from it´s multicultural heritage, it´s Gallo-roman-Saxon-Frankish-Danish-Norwegian diverse heritages to form a new culture. That spread not just over the borders of Normandy in France as in Anjou and Brittany but also in England, Scotland Wales, Ireland and southern Italy.

    that culture was not a Viking culture but a new culture mixed from it´s diverse heritage.

    I do not think that 30 Palestinians fleeing poverty and hardship are a bad thing for Iceland.

    We have gained so much from mixing in Iceland. Baltasar Kormákur one of our best filmdirectors has Catalan origins, and Bubbi our own trubadour had a Danish mother and a half norwegian father. Many famous people in Iceland are of mixed origins be they in politics, art or something else. Páll Banine has origins in Northern Africa, Moroco to be exact hence of Arabic origins like these Palestinians. He is not a threat to Iceland but a good solid Icelander. Sólveig Anspach is an Icelandic director from an Icelandic father and American-Jewish mother. She lives in France mostly and has a French nationality and yet she contributes a lot to us in Iceland and is Icelandic.

    I myself am mixed and happy about it as it gives me the chance to discover more things. When I lived in London I admired the White Tower of London as it is a great contribution of my Norman forfathers to the English.

    Let us not hate but respect all.

    Takk fyrir mig.
    Why do people like you always live somewhere very very white

    If you where in my city you would preach total deportation, second, moroccans are the scum of the earth, they are only 1-2% of my land but create more crime then 90% of all whites here.

    You are mixed of what ? ah, two white races, no difference there.

    respect ? uch...... why don't the immigrants respect my land ? they do not even respect freedom, since these parasites are here my land has gone downwards in every way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drekinn View Post
    There are strong Celtic influences in Iceland. The metric system used by our poets used the Gaelic metric system and not the norse one.

    Many placenames in Iceland are of Celtic origins.

    We also had a strong littarature quickly compared to other norse lands who is without doupt because of Irish influences.

    The story of Búi and his dog in the Sagas is clearly a story influenced by the tale of Cuchulainn (the Dog of Culainn) the hero of Irish mythology.

    And we have many names of Celtic origins, Njáll being one then words like tarfur and tunna (the barrel being a Gaulish invention named Tunna in Gaulish), kerra also etc etc.

    We in Iceland try hard to be americans and use american slang, taking behaviour and expressions from the movies and TV. We did not need immigrants to change. And is changing such a bad thing?

    I am proud of my language and roots but we can not just stay witout moving.

    Personaly I like a lot of things from America, but it does not change who I am, it only makes me more rich and open.

    And let us not forget that the Norse had no problem in adapting to diverse changes .

    The Germans of today are also a mix as we are. When many Germanic people moved westward there was a space for Slavonic tribes to take part of their ancient homalands, they were went as far westward as the the elbe river.

    The Prussians come from a Baltic non Germanic people.

    They took up the German language trough the Teutonic knights but were not Germans.

    So are these descendents of Slavonic and Baltic people not Germans?

    Not forgetting the Celtic people staying in southern modern Germany who adopted the Germanic language.

    Mixing is not a bad thing.

    And for the culture it can only die if the people themselves let it die and that has nothing to do with immigrants.

    The Icelandic kids who speak to teach other in english, because they think it is more fancy, do not need any help from foreigners to lose their language.

    And the Germanic people who moved westwards when the Roman empire was in ruins and lost in a few generations their original Germanic language, adopting the fancy language of the Roman empire like many Icelandic kids are adopting english, were they still Germanic?

    Who is Germanic? A descendent of Slavonic-Baltic peopole speaking a Germanic language or a Germanic person speaking a non Germanic language?

    This is all complicated.

    Will we in Iceland be Icelandic if we speak English? Would we be Icelandic if we had adopted Danish?
    So your destruction and open colonisation is a result of you americanation, what a suprise, whats so great about things from America anyway...

    Whats next, mcdonalds in Iceland ? will you mix with negro's ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dietsehamer View Post
    So your destruction and open colonisation is a result of you americanation, what a suprise, whats so great about things from America anyway...

    Whats next, mcdonalds in Iceland ? will you mix with negro's ?
    This post is not anti-America, i was talking about the consumption industry from America, nike clothes, mcdonalds, mtv, rap, jeans and t-shirt culture that replaces culture, heritage and identity.

    Things that are also destructive for America, both native Indians and European Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drekinn View Post
    Icelanders went to Canada, 15 000 of them to be exact and that country has had benefice from that migration.

    The English received after 1066 a number of people from Normandy who immigrated to England after 1066 and with them came men from Brittany and other parts of modern day France..

    The result is the English language a beautifull language that would have sounded like Dutch if not for that migration, and it´s just my personal view that English is a much more beautifull language than Dutch is.

    The Normans of Normandy themselves gained much from immigration. The Neustrians were a people of a mixed heritage of Gallo-romans or Romanised Celts and of Saxon and Frankish immigrants. They all gained a lot by learning from each other. Then came the Danes and some numbers of Norwegians who settled Neustria creating Normandy.

    Normandy was a state that gained a lot from it´s multicultural heritage, it´s Gallo-roman-Saxon-Frankish-Danish-Norwegian diverse heritages to form a new culture. That spread not just over the borders of Normandy in France as in Anjou and Brittany but also in England, Scotland Wales, Ireland and southern Italy.

    that culture was not a Viking culture but a new culture mixed from it´s diverse heritage.

    I do not think that 30 Palestinians fleeing poverty and hardship are a bad thing for Iceland.

    We have gained so much from mixing in Iceland. Baltasar Kormákur one of our best filmdirectors has Catalan origins, and Bubbi our own trubadour had a Danish mother and a half norwegian father. Many famous people in Iceland are of mixed origins be they in politics, art or something else. Páll Banine has origins in Northern Africa, Moroco to be exact hence of Arabic origins like these Palestinians. He is not a threat to Iceland but a good solid Icelander. Sólveig Anspach is an Icelandic director from an Icelandic father and American-Jewish mother. She lives in France mostly and has a French nationality and yet she contributes a lot to us in Iceland and is Icelandic.

    I myself am mixed and happy about it as it gives me the chance to discover more things. When I lived in London I admired the White Tower of London as it is a great contribution of my Norman forfathers to the English.

    Let us not hate but respect all.

    Takk fyrir mig.
    But with immigration the country loses it's culture, and traditions. immigrants come in and take over as always. We're trying to preserve not destroy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drekinn View Post
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    Will we in Iceland be Icelandic if we speak English? Would we be Icelandic if we had adopted Danish?
    Yes, you'd still be ethnically Icelandic. Just as those Palestinians and their decendants will never truly be Icelandic .

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    Why do people like you always live somewhere very very white

    If you where in my city you would preach total deportation, second, moroccans are the scum of the earth, they are only 1-2% of my land but create more crime then 90% of all whites here.
    LOL!
    So true.
    The reality is that those that have not grown up in a multicultural society really do not know what it is really like.

    Those that have experienced it first hand realize that, multiculturalism does not work. Any time you put more than one culture together you are going to get conflict. The best way to have and maintain peace, is to maintain borders, and the personal space of other people. That goes for individuals and Nations as well.

    It is called Mutual Respect.

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    About assumptions

    People should not think that they know if they do not know. I have lived both in London and Paris for years. I have had no problem with living with other races and cultures. It has not been harder for me than the Vikings who adventured in diverse parts of the world, and frequenting other cultures and races, specialy in the metrapolis area of ancient Konstantinopel.

    Recent studies show that Icelanders have some Asian and Native American genes. We only have to look at Björk to realise that infact. Has this destroyed our culture?

    Most eastern and Central europe has this also since these parts of europe were a pray for powerfull Hunic and Mongolian armies.

    Scandinavians have these genes coming from the Sami people.


    Best regards.

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    It is not these first 30 that are the issue, you are quite correct 30 immigrants would be assimilated and quite possibly both societies would benefit however even if no families are allowed to come as well (rather unlikely, bleeding heart liberals like letting 20 family members per immigrant in) You can assume that at least 10 will be women of childbearing age so with a birth rate of 5.6 thats 56 children in one generation I think it is self evident where that leads.
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    the self must also die;
    but glory never dies,
    For the one who is able to achieve it.

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