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Thread: Do Your Friends Know How You Feel About Politics? / Have You Lost Friends Because of Ideological or Lifestyle Changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thusnelda View Post
    Some good closest friends you have. I applaud your persistence!
    Hehe I should perhaps have added that most political discussion among my friends doesn't ensue before at least 4 pints of beer have been consumed.
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    My family, friends and enemies (libs) know how I feel. I try to do it in a very civilised way

    I read a lot and I always make sure that my facts are straight before I talk to people. It gives me great pleasure to knock a lib's argument into the ground with facts - especially lib double standards.

    BUT, I don't want to make him/her lose face by being too severe. I'd rather win that person over - make them see the light.

    BUT, why should we always stand back so that the outspoken libs do the talking? Stuff them!!!!!

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    How To Deal With Friends Who Believe In Social Justice

    Here's an article about it:

    There are two kinds of people in this world: those who can think for themselves and see the truth for what it is, and those who don’t bother to do any critical thinking, and just believe what the majority tells them to believe. To them, truth matters less than what is socially expedient.

    Unfortunately, the second type outnumber the first at least 10 to 1. This ratio might be different in other countries, but I’m speaking from what I’ve experienced in Sweden. Generally, though, it seems like a rule of humanity that only some relatively few bright minds have the honesty and clarity to see things for what they are, instead of what they wish them to be.

    What this means is that you likely have a lot of people around you—neighbors, friends, family, coworkers—who belong to the group that let others do their thinking for them. I know that’s the case for me. It’s not easy finding friends who agree with me on subjects like politics and ethics. Hell, it’s hard enough to find someone who will even tolerate any ideology that didn’t originate with Karl Marx.

    I still like to hang out with my leftist friends, even if we have our differences. I’ve tried to change their minds, but so far without any luck. So if I can’t change it, I’ll have to learn how to live with it. Over the years, I’ve found ways to deal with the circumstance of being right-wing in a left-wing society. Below I share with you some thoughts I have on dealing with friends who have opinions that you disagree with.
    http://www.returnofkings.com/85237/h...social-justice

    The highlights:

    1. Don’t bring up your own views without good reason
    2. Prepare yourself with good arguments
    3. Don’t trust them to be loyal when shit hits the fan
    4. Find new friends

    Everyone of us has such friends. What's your strategy. How does your friendship last despite differing views? How acceptable is it, at all, to have such friends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Out of Germania View Post

    1. Don’t bring up your own views without good reason
    2. Prepare yourself with good arguments
    3. Don’t trust them to be loyal when shit hits the fan
    4. Find new friends
    i dont hide my views

    i more often than not have a good response ready(subject dependent)

    I dont have any "leftys" as friends that i would need to trust.....i keep them at a distance.
    i have a number of circles of friends that are of differing types and political differences,most of the ones that are most extreme in their views dont tend to be friends long.
    Tasmanian twice the heads!!.......twice the intelligence!?

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    Friend is special word I would never have a friend that has the views of a SJW.

    These SJW people need to be treated as outcast. Do not invite them to anything you have and tell others how bad they are. If we all treat them as social outcast they will disappear.

    Most of these social justice freaks just want attention, don't give it to them and they will go away. It is kind of like a baby that cries when there is nothing wrong. If you ignore the crying baby it will learn that crying will not get them anywhere and they will stop.
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    Somebody who is your 'friend' but shares SJW views may be perfectly nice in other ways, at least 99% of people I know are SJWs (unfortunately this makes existing in society hard to do)whether they know it or not. However I tend to treat them with utter disdain, and like the eternal spoiled children they are and I am outright offensive if they share those views or try to implement them around me. I don't stand for it and I don't care if it loses me 'friends', it has many times and will many times more. I suggest everybody else treat them in the same manner.

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    SJW seems to be an Internet thing at least to my experience. The majority of acquaintances of mine are rather mainstream people. They rather not discuss issues about "social justice". A few are like minds. I've no militantly leftist friends.

    My opinion to the topic: stay true to your beliefs and if your friends don't accept you because of them, they aren't really good friends to begin with. Honesty brings you more honesty in return, so it's the best way in my view.

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    1. Don’t bring up your own views without good reason
    Only my closest friends know my TOTAL views, even because it's life-threatening in Brazil being open about them... But still, I stand against SJWs, even without opening my true nature. It's like a fun cat-cockroach game in the end.

    2. Prepare yourself with good arguments
    I always have good arguments. Or should I say it's always them that have NONE whatsoever...? Because it's always so easy to debunk them, to the point they get aggressive and then I have a legit reason to block them without anyone complaining that I am a despicable, evil biggot, since they were the ones who started swearing at me as they had no arguments to counter my well-mannered, calm, cute and rational arguments.

    3. Don’t trust them to be loyal when shit hits the fan
    I don't trust them to be close friends, only acquaintances I have to put up with.

    4. Find new friends
    Being shy and silent, it's a bit complicated most of times... but I'm pretty lucky at being at RIGHT places with RIGHT people if you know what I mean

    So, I guess a bit of everything.
    Last edited by Reginleif; Thursday, May 19th, 2016 at 02:17 PM. Reason: Changed 'you' for 'I" in the context

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    My strategy is to let them fade away, it just isn't worth it to me. Not being able to talk openly in any remote way or count on that person's loyalty makes for a superficial and completely unsatisfying relationship.

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    You could also (ab)use them by shattering their world view. Most of them might not realize you're a nationalist/racialist and by letting them know at least sympathize with these currents, you screw up their sofar simple world view.

    Whether or not that's a smart thing, totally depends on the context though.


    Btw I believe in social justice too, but I presume that the OP does mean 'social justice of the orthodox politically correct kind'.

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