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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Since this thread has generated a lot of replies and interest - a record for Skadi forum?? - I'm posting here the complete Myatt article which my original post was an extract from.




    Why Islam Is Our Ally


    "We tell the Americans as a people, and we tell the mothers of soldiers - and American mothers in general - if they value their lives and those of their children, find a nationalistic government that will look after their interests, and not the interests of the Jews." Usama bin Laden, taken from an interview bin Laden gave on May 28 1998 CE


    "Even now America is preparing for another aggressive and oppressive war against the Iraqi people under the pretext of fighting terrorism. The whole world knows that this is a lie and that the truth is that it is America that is conducting and supporting terrorism. Yet it uses this lie as a pretext to take control of a people and to occupy their lands and rob them of their resources. While this is not surprising for the arrogant US - which is driven by a hate inspired Jewish cabal - it is surprising to see other countries joining with and supporting America, for they have long history of civilization, with some of them also having bad experiences with Muslims, and rather than learning from these, they are sinking deeper into error." Mullah Muhammad Umar, 2002 CE


    There are several reasons why those Muslims who uphold the Way of Life which is authentic Islam are our allies in our struggle against the New World Order (NWO) and the ZOG's which rule our once Aryan lands.

    First, these Muslims - as the two quotes above show - are aware of what is really going on in the world. Second, they were and are doing something about it on the practical level - from striving to create societies free from Zionist control and influence, to actively fighting Zionism and the agents and lackeys of Zionism, such as the American government and the American military who now are the just doing the dirty work for Zionism. Third, the Way of Life these Muslims uphold is a warrior way based around honour. Fourth, the societies these Muslims are striving to create through armed struggle and revolution - and the society they did create in the modern world before it was destroyed by the Zionists using their American military lackeys - are societies of reason, honour and numinosity, and thus superior to any society currently existing, in the West and elsewhere, dominated as the West in particular now is by dishonour, hypocrisy, deceit, materialism and the social doctrines created by Zionists to tame, domesticate and enslave us.


    What is Authentic Islam?


    This is the Islam that announces that Jihad, the armed struggle against invaders, occupiers, colonialists and oppressors, is an obligation, a duty. This is the Islam of Quran and Sunnah and these alone - where these are used as the standard, the criteria, for judgement. This is the Islam which strives for Khilafah, for an Islamic society based only upon Shariah where bayah (personal loyalty deriving from honour) to an Ameer or Khalifah (a Leader) is the norm. This is the Islam of warriors.


    This Islam - the Islam of Al-Qaida, of the Taliban, of Hamas - is in contrast to the so-called "Islam", the tame, emasculated, "moderate", "democratic" Islam, which the Zionists and their lackeys in the governments and agencies of the West seek to create and which they wish to see practised by Muslim countries. The tame so-called Islam of the Zionists is the "Islam" of those Muslims who ally themselves with the invaders, the Zionists, the Americans, in defiance of the Quran and Sunnah. This tame so-called "Islam" accepts the fake democracy of the modern West, whereas authentic Islam - like National-Socialism - is profoundly anti-democratic, seeking as Islam does to restore the Khilafah, led by an Ameer.

    This authentic Islam rejects any compromise with the Zionists, and any compromise with the materialistic, decadent, dishonourable way of life which has come to dominate all Western societies.



    The honourable warriors of this authentic Islam are the natural brothers-in-arms - the natural allies - of true, authentic, National-Socialists, exemplified as this National-Socialism was in warriors such as Leon Degrelle and Otto Ernst Remer.

    Adolf Hitler himself said, many times during the First Zionist War (commonly known as the Second World War) - to people like Leon Degrelle and Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem - that he desired an alliance between the Muslim world and National-Socialists, and he envisioned, after the war, aiding the restoration of the Khilafah. His vision was of a world where National-Socialism was triumphant in Europe, with an alliance between this Europe, the new Khilafah - in the Middle East, and North Africa - and a Japanese Empire in the Pacific.


    The Alliance of Honour:

    The respect that people like Leon Degrelle, Otto Ernst Remer and Adolf Hitler had for Islam arose from their understanding that Islam - authentic Islam - was the way of life of honourable warriors and produced a noble warrior society.


    It was this respect - based upon honour - which also led to the alliance with Japan, for Adolf Hitler and other National-Socialists understood that the ethos of Imperial Japan was a noble warrior ethos: that the Japan of the time was seeking to restore Japanese values and a Japanese way of life, valuing as it did its ancient traditions, such as Bushido. The essence of this way was the rootedness in the past - in Shinto and Bushido - with each individual seeing their own life in relation to Japan, and its ethos. That is, there was a real sense of Destiny - a real honourable and warrior ethos where individuals were willing and prepared to sacrifice their own lives for the greater good, for their unique way of life. This pure, authentic, Japanese ethos is in complete contrast to the materialistic, consumer-capitalist ethos which now dominates Japan, and which is a direct result of their "Americanization" following their defeat in the First Zionist War - and it is this "Americanization" which the New World Order now seeks to impose upon the whole Muslim world, since the Muslim world is now the last bastion for warriors: for the practical warrior way of life which values tradition, the warrior ethos, and which, because of honour, has an awareness, an understanding, of the numinous - that is, an awareness, an understanding, of the sacred.

    For, in all genuine warrior societies, there is this awareness and understanding of the numinous - there is that perspective, of genuine humility, which arises when the individual sees themselves in relation to what is beyond them and understands that there are limits to personal behaviour, and that some things are sacred: to be treasured. That is, their view of life is not that of materialism or of abstract impersonal un-numinous ideas - instead, they are connected, to their land, their people, their traditions, in a living way; they feel this, in their very being, and are prepared if necessary, and often willingly, to die for such things.

    In essence, this is what the present conflict between Islam and the NWO is all about - the conflict between the warrior way of life and the materialistic, arrogant, profane ways of the modern West. It is a conflict between a living cultural tradition which is numinous (authentic Islam) - which values what is sacred and living - and an arrogant, soul-less, tyrannical power, the NWO. It is in truth a continuation of the armed struggle which began with the triumph of National-Socialism in Germany, and with the resurgence of an independent Japan. All three of these ways of life were and are essentially warrior ways - and all three were a direct challenge to the soul-less, the un-numinous, ignoble and profane materialism represented by the Zionist-dominated "West" with its capitalist-consumer culture and its dishonourable arrogance.

    In an important sense, this really is a conflict between the sacred and the profane. The essence of the warrior way - exemplified by National-Socialism, authentic Islam and the Shinto, Bushido orientated Japanese way - is a concept of personal honour and a sacred duty deriving from the willingness of individuals to identify with something beyond themselves which is numinous, which they regard as sacred, such as the land of their ancestors, their folk, or Allah, and which thus provides their own life with both context and meaning. There is thus a genuine reverence for certain individuals, certain heroes, just as their own traditions are alive, living. For example, in Islam, there is a profound reverence for the Prophet Muhammad, a profound reverence for the Quran, and a sincere submission to some power which is beyond one's self, beyond one's powers, and which submission thus produces that balance which is the genuine personal honour of the true warrior.

    It is these ways of life - these numinous ways - which bring a numinous meaning into the lives of individuals, thus transporting those individuals to a higher, more evolved, realm of living. For these authentic, numinous ways of life, are inspiring - redolent of Destiny - and attract the most noble of individuals. Thus it is, for example, that thousands upon thousands of young, idealistic Muslims - the best among Muslims - travelled to fight for the Taliban, respect leaders like Sheikh Osama bin Laden, and are ready to give up their freedom and their lives to fight for authentic Islam, just as thousands of idealistic European men - the best among Aryans - swayed by the same warriors feelings, joined the ranks of the Waffen-SS.

    These ways are all thus in stark contrast, and direct opposition to, the way of "democracy" - for these warrior ways are the ways of the noble, the honourable, the excellent, whereas the way of "democracy" is the way of the mediocre, the common, the profane, the lowest level. In total contrast to democracy - which keeps people in thrall to their lower selves - these warrior ways seek to evolve both individuals and society itself.

    The aims and ideals of "democracy" are material and abstract ones - more leisure, more wealth, more comfort, more indulgence - whereas the aims and ideals of these warrior ways are embodied in the most excellent, heroic, honourable individuals.


    "The life of the Ummah is connected to the ink of the scholars and the blood of the martyrs. What is more beautiful than to write the history of the Ummah with both the ink of the scholar and his blood, such that the map of Islamic history becomes coloured with two lines: one of them black, and that is what the scholar writes with the ink of his pen; and the second red, and that is what the martyr writes with his blood. And more beautiful than this is when the blood is one and the pen is one, so that the hand of the scholar, which expends the ink and moves the pen, is the same hand that expends his blood and moves the nations. The extent to which the number of martyred scholars increases, is the extent to which nations are delivered from their slumber, rescued from their decline and awoken from their sleep.

    So history does not write its lines except with blood. Glory does not build its lofty edifice except with skulls. Honour and respect cannot be established except on a foundation of cripples and corpses. Empires, noble persons, states and societies, cannot be established except with examples." ash-Sheikh ash-Shaheed `Abdullah Yoosuf `Azzam


    What the Zionists, and their propagandists, have tried so hard to do - with some success - is to undermine and destroy this notion of the sacred, this sense of Destiny: the ideals of the warrior society. They have saught to replace this warrior ethos, this élan of belonging, this honourable excellence, with a profane, materialistic way of life where the lowest, ignoble, desires of the individual dominate ourselves and our societies, and where we are allowed to, or expected to, follow only these lowly desires, and where we are allowed to, and expected to, if necessary, fight and die for our materialistic, Zionist, masters when they decide some new land needs invading, or some new movement or group needs opposing and suppressing, or when they desire their ignoble profane Diktat to be enforced somewhere. The plan is for a tyrannical world-government where the majority of people would be slaves to materialism, mere consumer-worker drones - a super-government of member States all of which have been forced to accept the doctrines, the laws, the ways of the Zionist social engineers, either by direct military action, repression and occupation, or by political social engineering created and maintained by lackey politicians and their ignoble supporters.


    "The Jews were chosen to act as pathfinders for the world, and Israel [and thus Zionism] has a special place as an instrument to effect the Jew's social engineering upon the world..." (Chief Rabbi of the United Kingdom, Dr. Jakobovits, August 1982 CE)


    The Zionists have further managed - through the power of the Media which they control or have influence over - to convince many, many Muslims in the West, and elsewhere, that Muslims should be "moderate" and tame, and accept the political, and social, domination, of the West, as well as its materialism. That is, they have persuaded many Muslims to seek after the material goals of the West, and forget their warrior heritage, their warrior ethos, their warrior Destiny. Thus have many of these tame Muslims betrayed their comrades - and thus have these Zionist-made "Muslims" aided and abetted the occupation of Muslims lands. But the reality, the truth, of Zionist control is evident in the brutal occupation of places such Iraq and Afghanistan; in the use of torture by the West, against Muslims; in the mass arrests and detentions without trial; in the killing of tens upon tens of thousands of Muslims; and in for example the sheer hypocrisy that lets the West detain suspects without trial or legal representation and which contrasts with their repeated propaganda bleating about "freedom". In addition, the truth is evident in the puppet governments the Zionists and their lackeys have created in the Muslim world - with the tame "Muslims" in such countries doing the bidding of their Western and Zionist masters and seeking to kill, torture, and imprison any Muslim who believes in authentic Islam and who seeks to establish a genuine Islamic society.

    For what the Zionists, their tame politicians, and their social engineers, do not want and will not tolerate, are societies which reject the ways of materialism, the ways of usury capitalism, and which, in place of a sham "democracy", create or seek to create noble, numinous communities led by real leaders, real warriors. Thus did the Zionists have their lackeys destroy the one recent, and modern example, of such a warrior society, led by an honourable warrior who was respected by his people: the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. Such societies are seen as direct threat to the Diktat of the New World Order - to the establishment and maintenance of a tyrannical world government, ruled by Zionists, for the benefit of themselves and their fellow-travellers and lackeys.



    "Today the Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them." ( Mahathir ibn Muhammad, Prime Minister of Malaysia, 19 Shaban 1424 / 16 October 2003 CE)



    But many, many Muslims, and some National-Socialists, have seen through the lies, the propaganda of the Zionists - for we know what is going on, in this world, and why. Muslims have and are gathering together to try and do something practical about it by taking up arms. Surely, now it is the turn of National-Socialists, who can and who should join with or aid those warriors of Islam who are fighting, in a practical way, the Zionists, who are fighting the lackeys of the Zionists, and who are fighting those governments who are doing the dirty work for their Zionist masters.




    David Myatt
    February 115yf
    17 Thul-Hujja 1424

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by stroker
    Zionists are a threat to you in what way?
    A threat to us, to "our" cause. Where have you been that you ask such a question on a forum about Aryan identity, culture, survival.

    Go read the full original article by Myatt I've just posted. Some of his other works. Writers like Pierce. And so on.

    Quote Originally Posted by stroker
    Unlike the Muslim cowards they attack military targets.
    Tell that to the thousands upon thousands of Muslim civilians killed in Palestine, and to the tens of thousands of Muslims killed by US bombs, bullets, missles in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes, the US - stooges of the Zionists, don't you know. Doing their dirty work.

    I find it interesting that apologists for Zionists are appearing on this forum, and that they're just repeating Zionist propaganda. We'll have the "Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East next..." and the "Jews have a right to Palestine" mantras.

    BTW, read my many replies about the attacks on civilians by Muslims. They regard their targets as legitimate.

    As I've said - there would be no attacks - get it? no attacks - were the Zionists to stop occupying Palestine, and were the US gov and its allies to stop occupying Muslim kands and interfering in Muslim affairs.

    Quote Originally Posted by stroker
    Muslims are a threat to everyone because they have no logic,
    Sheer prejudice. How many Muslims do you know? How many Muslim lands have you visited, or lived in?


    Quote Originally Posted by stroker
    they attack civilian targets and that is terrorism
    I've answered this in other replies go read them.

    Define terrorism, and "civlian targets".

    <Further pro-Zionist anti-Muslim rantings snipped>

    Hey, why don't we ever hear from people like you about Zionist atrocities, and US atrocities?

    What about the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children that died after 1991 due to US imposed sanctions?

    Quote Originally Posted by stroker
    It is an unfortunate truth that 99% of muslims are uneducated rabble

    Sheer prejudice. How many Muslims do you know? How many Muslim lands have you visited, or lived in?


    Quote Originally Posted by stroker
    The Zionists are not gang raping girls in our cities.....the Muslims are.
    This propaganda lie has been addressed many times - but I'll do it again, one more time. Give details - names, places. And how do you know - if you can give details - they were MUSLIM?

    You seem to be confusing "Asians" and the like with "Muslims". So who's not being logical here then?

    Not all "Asians" are Muslim... Not all people from Pakistan are Muslim, like not all people in England are Christian, even though many of the English were baptized as babies.


    Quote Originally Posted by stroker
    Please if you can indulge me convince me that the Palestinians have a genuine claim over Israel.
    Ah! A Zionist mantra!

    For answers to common Zionist propaganda re Palestine I refer you to

    http://www.palestineremembered.com/ZionistFAQ.html

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by magilla gorilla
    And, if you still wonder why I don't like muslims: I have 1 brain, two eyes, and 2 balls. Nuff said.
    Yes, I'll quote myself for,hopefully, my final post on this thread.

    It appears you can't teach the blind to see, nor can you teach the deaf to listen. I'm not referring to myself, nor am I referring to Jamopy, Irish Nationalist, FadeTheButcher, AWAR, Gesta Bellica, AngryPotato, Gladstone, Jack, etc, or as the law defines it: "the majority".

    If this thread was an election ballot, I know which side would win, and it's not the pro-islamicists.

    Of all the questions you've asked and "points" you've "made", none of these have done anything to sway anyone's opinion nor have they been prolific enough to create the "thought" processes to convert anybody into a ranting subvert of islam.

    islam=the death of Western Civilization=No more White People=islam victory.

    I don't need to quote the David Myatts of society or any other "intelligentsia" to make my points; if nearly TWO THOUSAND YEARS of conflict between the West and islam is not enough to enlighten certain individuals towards the truth, then maybe certain individuals are not as intelligent or learned as they would lead others to believe.

    All this RHETORIC being spouted off about this "islam's our friend" crap, has got to make-us realize there are divisions in all groups; in Western Civilization, there's us and then there's the traitors; in islam there's the dead, and the not dead yet.

    I guess we're only as strong as our weakest link. We all know which link that is.

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by magilla gorilla
    If this thread was an election ballot, I know which side would win, and it's not the pro-islamicists.

    Which means squat. Whoever said democracy - the majority - was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by magilla gorilla
    Of all the questions you've asked and "points" you've "made",

    I like your use of "quotes" Not!


    Quote Originally Posted by magilla gorilla
    I don't need to quote the David Myatts of society or any other "intelligentsia" to make my points;
    Well, as I see it you haven't made any points - just stated and re-stated your views without any evidence or argument save refrains such as what follows:

    Quote Originally Posted by magilla gorilla
    if nearly TWO THOUSAND YEARS of conflict between the West and islam is not enough to enlighten
    certain individuals towards the truth, then maybe certain individuals are not as intelligent or learned as they would lead others to believe.

    Interesting - now where have I read this particular reposte before? To wit the reposte that if someone does not agree with you, then "they're obviously not intelligent..." thingy. Ah yes, I've read it on other forums when it's a classic tactic used to avoid answering difficult questions or when one chooses to restate one's own opinion again and again and ignore most or everything that someone else has reasonably written in the hope no one will notice one's evasion and one's tactics of distraction.

    Some facts:
    1) It's not 2,000 years - it's less than 1,500 since the migration of the Prophet Muhammad to Medina
    2) Since that time, the conflict between "the West" and Islam has been sporadic, not constant
    3) A lot of this conflict - insofar as "Islam" is concerned - had very little to do with Islam, and more to do with the personal and military ambitions of various rulers in the Muslim world.
    4) For the last few hundred years, it has been a question of Western imperialism causing conflict with Islam - not the other way round
    5) The Renaissance, the Enlightenment in Europe would not have been possible but for the civilization of Islam - for this civilization saved most of the manuscripts of the Ancient Greeks (and many Roman authors) . Good examples here are Aristotle and Euclid
    6) This Islamic civilization made important and original contributions to science, medicine and mathematics
    7) Muslims created the first hospitals and the first Universities

    And so on.....

    Quote Originally Posted by magilla gorilla
    All this RHETORIC being spouted off
    Excuse me, it was not rhetoric, as any perusal of the threads will show. Interesting that you failed to answer any of my questions, and failed to contradict the facts produced in my replies. If anyone has engaged in rhetoric, it was you.

    Quote Originally Posted by magilla gorilla
    I guess we're only as strong as our weakest link. We all know which link that is.

    Most certainly we know - those who rely on prejudice instead of reason and rational argument..... Little wonder then that "we" have made little headway in the past sixty years and no surprise then for predicting "our" future. The Aryan way, I repeat, is that of reason and honor.

    Where shall the word be found, where will the word
    Resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.....

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    Interesting - now where have I read this particular reposte before? To wit the reposte that if someone does not agree with you, then "they're obviously not intelligent..." thingy. Ah yes, I've read it on other forums when it's a classic tactic used to avoid answering difficult questions or when one chooses to restate one's own opinion again and again and ignore most or everything that someone else has reasonably written in the hope no one will notice one's evasion and one's tactics of distraction.
    But, hey that's been your whole strategy: misinformation and repetition.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    1) It's not 2,000 years - it's less than 1,500 since the migration of the Prophet Muhammad to Medina
    As I said "nearly two thousand". If that's so inconceivable, oh well.

    I'm not going to reply to this thread anymore. It's getting a little too personal on both of our parts.

    "Agree-to-disagree" for a-lack-of-better-words.

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by magilla gorilla
    But, hey that's been your whole strategy: misinformation and repetition.
    The threads speak for themselves...


    Quote Originally Posted by magilla gorilla
    "Agree-to-disagree" for a-lack-of-better-words.

    Indeed. Seems best.

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by magilla gorilla
    If this thread was an election ballot, I know which side would win, and it's not the pro-islamicists.
    And the majority of people are always calm, rational, intelligent and spiritually knowledgeable, right?

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    Why Islam Is Our Ally: A Brief Overview
    I am not a racist and I am not a Nazi. I agree with different points here.

    Europe and Christendom are related concepts. Islam is and has traditionally been the enemy of Europe and of Christianity. Today’s Islam is frankly a backward and intolerant “religion” and an ugly way of life that is too repulsive to be accepted by any sane European as an equal or God forbid alternative form of civilization.

    Israel and its vassal, United States, are also enemies of Europe. United States is not only an enemy of Europe but is also the enemy of the human race, of all its people, - America is the ultimate hostis humani generis. United States also applied enormous amount of pressure on the EU to admit Turkey into the union. US was also pushing EU to admit members which are obvious Trojan horse, the goal has always been to undermine Europe and European unity. United States and Israel had repeatedly tried to direct Muslim rage against Europeans and non-Europeans. United States (and of course United States and Israel is more or less same thing) financed the mujahedeen in Afghanistan and Pakistan, financed insurrection all over the place, initiated dismemberment of Yugoslavia and cooked up the Russian misadventure in Chechnya. Right now the mad dog they had been feeding so well for so long had turned against its masters and began biting them.

    Good.

    Muslims are an ally of Europe as long as they are out there (and not here!) fighting Zionists and Americans. In that sense Islam is Europe’s ally. We have one common and vicious enemy. We can trade with Muslim nations, we can do many things together, but we cannot integrate our societies because our cultures and expectations are so vastly different.

    Generally speaking as long as nations of Europe stay out of the smoky Zionist-American kitchen it is in Europe’s interest to see US get stuck deeper in the Middle Eastern mud and provoke more and more Muslim range while the Chosen ones keep on losing whatever little sense of proportion they had left and become even more brazen and rabid. In that respect, Zionists and Americans had been recently doing an outstanding job.
    "I'm known for my irony. But even I would not have come upon the idea of erecting a statue of liberty in the harbour of New York."

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by lg
    And the majority of people are always calm, rational, intelligent and spiritually knowledgeable, right?
    Right.

    Maybe that's why I haven't responded to this thread in a while; I'm trying to keep it civil. In order to preserve that civility, I'm not replying to this thread anymore.

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by berschneider
    I am not a racist and I am not a Nazi. I agree with different points here.

    Europe and Christendom are related concepts.
    Yes, and no.

    Our pagan/heathen Aryan culture is not related to Christianity at all, while what has developed in Europe through nation-States as "our" culture has been influenced by Xtianity, alas.

    Quote Originally Posted by berschneider
    Islam is and has traditionally been the enemy of Europe and of Christianity.
    Gross and inaccurate generalization.

    For centuries, Islam aided Christianity in Europe - in fact, Christian scholars traveled to Islamic lands, specially Andalusia, to learn from Islamic scholars, and Islam was the inspiration for European Universities.

    During the Crusades in Palestine, the Xtians there sided with the Muslims because they considered that there Crusaders were barbarians.

    In the Muslim world of the time, Christians (and Jews) were accorded full respect and lived peacefully among Muslims. In this Muslim world, there were no "Inquisitions", no persecutions of "heretics", no burning of witnces and the like - as practised by "devout" Xtians.

    Even as late as the time of Mozart, Islam was considered quite civilized. One of his Operas has a good portray of Islamic attitudes.

    Quote Originally Posted by berschneider
    Today’s Islam is frankly a backward and intolerant “religion” and an ugly way of life that is too repulsive to be accepted by any sane European as an equal or God forbid alternative form of civilization.
    This to me seems sheer prejudice. How many Muslim lands have you visited? Have you lived in one of them? How many Muslims - note, Muslims - do you know? Have you studied Islam?

    If not, on what do you base your opinion of Islam?

    Islam today is frankly more civilized than "the West" with the hypocrisy and decadence and dishonor of the West.

    How do you define "civilization"? Material things? Or an attitude - an ethos?
    For me, it means a certain character, a certain way of living - that of honor, reason, and manners.

    If you'd had real experience of the world "out there" you might have somewhat different views, and be able to say compare a run down White "housing" estate in a city in, say, England, with a poor part of a city in a Muslim land, say Aswan.

    Which is more "civilized"? One of course is more wealthy - TV's, cars, reasonable housing, newish clothes (even though a lot of the Whites might be on State Benefit), little real poverty. But the attitude of the people, especially the young? Drugs, decadence, crime, rowdy gangs of youths.

    In the Muslim place - manners; a certain civilized attitude, despite the real poverty. Why? Because of Islam.

    If you don't believe this - go and see for yourself.

    Of course, here I too generalize a bit; but on balance my experience in the two worlds have shown a more civilized attitude among Muslims than among the majority in the now corrupt West.

    Why is the West corrupt, decadent? Because we've lost our way; we have no real cultural identity anymore; no understanding of our own Aryan culture and Aryan way of life.


    Quote Originally Posted by berschneider
    United States also applied enormous amount of pressure on the EU to admit Turkey into the union.
    Turkey is secular, and corrupted by American materialism. Islamists are persecuted there by the government to please their American masters.

    Quote Originally Posted by berschneider
    United States (and of course United States and Israel is more or less same thing) financed the mujahedeen in Afghanistan and Pakistan,
    1) They never financied anything in Pakistan
    2) The support they gave to the Mujahideen during the conflict with the Soviets did not amount to much considering the years of that conflict. The main support for the Mujahideen came from Muslims, the Ummah itself.


    Quote Originally Posted by berschneider
    Right now the mad dog they had been feeding so well for so long had turned against its masters and began biting them.
    Another gross generalization. The US gave SOME support to SOME of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation - not much and not very useful in fact - in a bid to increase US influence in the area. Most of the leaders of the Mujahideen such a Mullah Umar and bin Laden rejected any and all US help and assistance.

    Nowhere else did the US aid any Muslims, any Mujahideen. In fact, it did the exact opposite.

    Quote Originally Posted by berschneider
    Muslims are an ally of Europe as long as they are out there (and not here!) fighting Zionists and Americans. In that sense Islam is Europe’s ally.
    This is exactly what the Jihadists, or Islamists, or whatever yu want ot call them want - Muslims in Muslim lands. See my replies earlier in this thread. The policy of the Talban was to encourage Muslims from Europe to emigrate back to Muslim lands.

    This would be the official policy of a new Khilafah. BTW, this is what Hitler himself wanted after World War Two - a strong pan-European NS State, and a new Khilafah in the Middle East and North Africa with which there would be an alliance. he was prepared to aid the restoration of the Khilafah.


    Quote Originally Posted by berschneider
    We have one common and vicious enemy.
    Yes indeed and as I said many times in my replies here - they are fighting this enemy of ours - and the allies of this enemy - in a practical way, now, everyday, while we are doing very little except play at the "party politics" game and talk and write about things, and posture about our "warrior past".


    BTW I'm on vacation for a couple of days so my replies will probably de delayed.

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