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Thread: Is Islam Our "Ally"?

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by zeno
    They are not an ally, but a very serious threat. I know there are people who tend to romanticize the "Jihadists" and refer to ideals like: self-sacrifice, discipline, primacy of the spirit, anti-globalism, etc. But, in actuality these Moslem fundamentalists tend to be shifty, shady, self-promoting and totally untrustworthy. They cause more trouble than they are worth.

    1) have you actually met any? Mujahideen, I mean.

    2) What I write about them is based on personal experience - in other words, my own answer to (1) is yes. Therefore I do not "romanticize" them, and therefore I know that your assertions about them are incorrect.

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Nationalist

    Muslim attack a Briton...

    And the fact those in the image are Muslims is obvious by what - their "color"?

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    And the fact those in the image are Muslims is obvious by what - their "color"?
    Pretty much. What are they, Hindus?

    I don't care what they are, really. They look out of place in Britain because they ARE out of place.
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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33
    there is nothing within Quran which would stand out as weird to a Christian, unlike the Talmud which is full of weirdness.
    Don't Muslims believe that in heaven they'll (if they die as martyrs) be serviced by something like 50 virgins with whom they can have their way and these ravished beauties will magically become virgins again for the next day's frolick? That alone is a deal breaker for monogamous Europeans.

    There was an interesting thread on Skadi recently that related the pre-Mohammedan (pagan) origin of worship of the Kaaba stone. Also, every few years a couple hundred Muslim pilgrams get trampled to death in the rush to throw stones at the Devil, represented by seven stone pillars -- obviously a holdover from paganism.

    Islam, like Christianity, has been adapted to the psychological needs of its adherants. Evidently, the psychological needs of Europeans and Middle Easterners are different.

    People tend to think that later additions are always more progressive. Many years ago I, read the parts of the Koran and the thing that struck me was how different the telling of the Old Testament stories were from what I had been taught. Someone (or both) had to be in error. I now believe that Christians have transcribed the Hebraic Scripture as faithfully as possible. Christians are motivated to do so since the central theme of Christianity is fulfillment of the Messianic prophecy. The Promise to Abraham is thereby fulfilled and this de-legitimizes modern day Jews who still see themselves as the Chosen People awaiting their Messiah. In other words, the train has already left and Jews aren't on it.

    Muslims seem to have instead created a tautology by changing said Scripture to suit their needs and justifying doing so by having "perfected" the word of God. One might think both are a pile of crap, but one seems to me to be a more honest and honorable pile, adhering to the Western value of integrity.

    I wonder that converting to Islam is becoming the newest form of Western youth rebellion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33
    That said, I don't want non-white Muslim immigrants in Europe, anymore than they want Europeans and Americans in their lands.
    I don't want Muslims in Europe whether they're White or not. Whether or not a Muslim is White, I expect they will still side with other Muslims on immigration and will have to have their very different value system accomodated in culturally Western lands as a Human Rights issue. No chaos of peoples for me, thanks.

    I do not see Muslims as an ally.
    Last edited by Louky; Saturday, February 14th, 2004 at 04:52 PM.
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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Muslim Video Supports Violence

    Again, Islam IS NOT our ally.

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by Louky
    Pretty much. What are they, Hindus?

    I don't care what they are, really. They look out of place in Britain because they ARE out of place.
    1) I say - QED to my argument, since it is obvious the people in the image are being judged by their race. The arguments seems to run - they look Pakistani (or whatever); Pakistanis (or whatever) are Muslim, therefore they are Muslim...


    Anyone else see the logical fallacy in the original post and the above reply?

    2) And the modern people in Britain with their cars, their jobs that do not revolve around the land (but often mostly support the capitalist system), their urban way of life, their large cities and ugly towns - are they "out of place" in Britain?

    Real question is - whose Britain? What is "Britain"?

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Nationalist

    Again, Islam IS NOT our ally.

    A statment, not an argument.


    Last edited by rhadley; Sunday, February 15th, 2004 at 02:56 PM.

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    Post QuRe: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Nationalist
    Muslim Video Supports Violence

    Again, Islam IS NOT our ally.
    A little too Jamaican for my tastes, but otherwise that video rocks!

    I've heard a lot of 'white power' music and most of it advocates genocide against one group or another. Not to mention Satanic Black Metal songs about burning down churches, etc. Nothing really shocks me anymore. This could even be some hoax made by 'G_d's Chosen.' :anieyes

    Hamas used pornographic videos to recruit suicide bombers, under the guise of showing them what kind of fine virginal booty they'd be rewarded with in paradise. Real hardcore Muslims don't even listen to music. I read about this guy who wouldn't even let his children laugh or play, their only entertainment was listening to audio tapes of some sheik giving speeches about the Quran, and his wife had to wear a burqa in the house- all the time, even when no one was there.

    There are all kind of Muslims, just like Christians. I'm definitely against this Crusade (Bush even called it that), as much as I'm against these fundamentalist faggots invading our lands and telling us how to live.

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    It might be a video made by the Jew.

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    1) have you actually met any? Mujahideen, I mean.

    2) What I write about them is based on personal experience - in other words, my own answer to (1) is yes. Therefore I do not "romanticize" them, and therefore I know that your assertions about them are incorrect.

    Actually, I haven't met any, but I know the type. But since you have, let me ask you some questions:

    1. Do they even WANT to be an ally? It seems to me that they definitely do not. They are causing trouble in Russia, the Balkans, France, Italy, Britain, etc. They are causing disturbances, riots, and open warfare throughout Europe. Would an ally do that? Since you know them, tell me, what are their intentions in regards towards Europe. Would an ally have such intentions?

    2. I think you are coming from an NS perspective. So then let me ask you, are these "Mujahideen" NS in any way, shape or form? I think not. Actually, I think they are extremely anti-NS in their thoughts, attitudes and actions. The Islamists are very much against any form of nationalism, elitism or racialism. They believe in a very extreme and aggressive form of internationalism, egalitarianism, and "Old-Testament-ism". They are very far from a NS ethos.

    Show me one POSITIVE quote or action from them that is pro-Europe or pro-NS.

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