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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    You think that Jews are an enemy? There's hardly 20 million of them. They may be in positions of power, but that's about it. Muslims on the other hand are more than a billion, they have nukes, there's tens of millions of them already in the heart of Europe, and hundreds of millions on Europe's borders. I bet you'd love their warrior spirit if you saw what they do to children, women and anyone who they don't like.

    Think about it, would you rather fight two guys armed with lap-top computers(jews), or a thousand men armed with AK's(muslims)?

    Also, add to that the fact that everything you probably hate about the Jews ( insert excerpts from the Talmud here ) you will also find in the Kuran. Muslims are allowed to lie and to cheat, break treaties and promises to non-muslims.

    Yes, this reflects my thoughts. A lot of people here underestimate the Muslims and maybe, MAYBE overestimate the Jews...
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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    By which time it may well be too late. We can and should fight now, but we don't because we're always "preparing the way" or making some such excuse while our folk gets destroyed.

    We've been "preparing the way" for fifty or more years.
    There were several attempts at revolution during those 50 years. The Bruder Schweigen in the US, neo-fascists in Italy, VAM in Sweden. They all showed great bravery but none of them succeded in starting a revolution, and this is because there was no revolutionary situation. (if one is to use Marxist terms, they were "adventurists" like Che Guevara, trying to start revolution by personal example)

    I agree that we can and should fight now, but not by military means. We need a base of supporters first, like the IRA had, where we can recruit and hide. Without such a base, we would loose quickly, and not even be able to get our message across while loosing.

    The usual road to a revolution starts with a popular movement that is repressed by the State. Only after this repression does the succesful revolution start. So IMO we need to have a succesfull popular movement first. There is not enough visible repression yet to make the common man understand why we should start shooting politicians.


    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    Unrealistic comparison because Germany did not have millions of non-Aryans in their land and the Zionists had nothing like the power they have now.

    With the power they have now - with all their "denial" and anti-racist laws and the like - they have effectively suppressed any chance of rebellion, of political resurgence.

    As I've said before - even if by a miracle "we" obtained power somewhere, the Zionists would have our new government destroyed in months: invasion, occupation, all probably via the United Nations or "America", to restore "democracy" and eradicate "racism, anti-semitism" blah blah.
    If the Zionists are so much stronger than before, this also proves that the possibilities for armed, succesfull, revolution are smaller. It may be tempting to "go out with blazing guns", but it wont save our folk right now.

    Revolution starts in the head.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    Yawn. But they do nothing. OK some, a few, might vote for some WN party at some election, but so what? What have such parties achieved so far in France, in Austria, elsewhere? An end ot immigration? Hah! Maybe a few meaningless "controls" to hoodwink some people.

    By the time such Parties get anywhere near power, why we'll be a minority in our own lands.
    Just a question. When and where did movements of an NS variety gain power by revolution historically? All NS seizure of power has traditionally been through politics, sometimes mixed with some amounts of violence (Spain may be an exception, but I wouldnt classify Franco as NS).

    And if you look at the example of Germany, this seizure of power can be quite fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    How to stop immigration? Revolution. Make our lands war zones, like Iraq say. Now how many immigrants would come then? How many would rush to leave?
    Not to mention: "how many immigrants (including Mujahid) would form militias and fight us"?

    And we dont have the ability to start such revolution at the moment. We may be able to burn down a refugee camp or shoot some politician, but no more. What would that gain us?

    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    I say again, they want their own land, and we want our own lands. What's difficult about understanding this? So - their goals aid our goals.
    Correction. They want their lands, AND they want our lands (they also want our souls )

    And, with our lack of power right now we cant be allies to anyone. We can be hangers-on to Hezbollah, but no more than that. If all is as bleak as you say, why would they even WANT us as allies?



    Quote Originally Posted by rhadley
    In case you hadn't noticed, honor is central to our Cause. Which is Folk and Honor.

    No, I'll say it even clearer - to have an Aryan soul is to have a love for our folk and to have honor.
    Im well aware about the importance of honor to our cause, no need to imply that I dont. What I was saying was that I am a LITTLE suspicious that maybe those Mujahid wont give up their presence in Europe just like that. It does actually say in the Koran that Islam should be spread among as many people as possible. Why should Europeans be the exception?

    Islam may be an ally, or useful, in certain situations, as I said before, but no "NS-Islam-Axis" is realistic.

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Quote Originally Posted by Oskorei
    There were several attempts at revolution during those 50 years. The Bruder Schweigen in the US, neo-fascists in Italy, VAM in Sweden. They all showed great bravery but none of them succeded in starting a revolution, and this is because there was no revolutionary situation. (if one is to use Marxist terms, they were "adventurists" like Che Guevara, trying to start revolution by personal example)

    Yes a few attempts - and no situation because we need to create it, as I've said on various threads here. Create how? See Myatt's revolutionary works for instance.

    Seems I'm just repeating what I've said a few times before on this and other threads, so I'll make this my last reply here.

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    Post Re: Why Islam is Our Ally

    Yes, much seems to be repeated here...

    Spiritus Scientia, do you really think that people overstimate the Jews? You admit that they are in positions of power, but you shrug it off. I'm wondering if you can tell me what is more important than to be in positions of power, especially that of Government control.

    Yes, there are thousands of parisitic third worlders, Muslims armed with "AK's and nukes", Chinese and Blacks that roam our streets and nations. But are they the "real" threat? Of course they pose a threat. The third worlders and Muslims bring poverty and disease, the blacks and Chinese turn safe, clean areas into dangerous ghettos, etc (I am generalizing of course). But a black man, with his stereo, bucket of chicken, welfare check and taste for robbing the "white man". Is he a real threat? No, you need to look deeper. The real threat is the people responsible for allowing these people to migrate to European homelands in the first place. These are people who drive expensive cars, and show up to work in shirt and tie every day. These Jewish people WANT you to believe that the immigrants (and especially the Muslims) are to blame. As long as you keep engaging yourself in plotless acts of violence such as smashing the windows of the local Chinese takeaway on a weekly basis, they have you blinded and therefore won't lose power. As Dr. Solar Wolff said, with the Zionist root dead, European nations will be able to solve this immigration problem. I don't underestimate Muslims either. Often, they don't show a lot of respect for Western culture or any culture that isn't theirs. Their birth rate is ridiculous, and Islam is definitely not quite the "religion of peace". These people want to put us about 1000 years back. But the majority of Muslims aren't dangerous, nor do they want to destroy the West. They move for the same reasons as anyone else; to better the quality of their lives. And with the insane policies regarding immigration (I'm thinking along the line of benefits), can you blame them? You need to remember that they are angry at us not because of our freedom or religion, but because of Europe's involvement in supporting Israel. 9/11 was a result of American/Jewish supremacism. Simple as that.

    Like I said before, although Jews are a large problem, they're hardly the only problem. Especially in Europe. Jewish influence in America is far greater. I'm not claiming to be an expert here (hey, I don't even care that much for WN), but rather than repeating the same stuff here people could read books such as "The Culture of Critique" by Kevin MacDonald or "My Awakening" by David Duke to get a better idea of why things are the way they are.

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    I wouldn't say that Islam is our ally. Especially not considering what Islamists have done to my country/people, not to mention the mass immigration to Europe, who are mostly Islamic immigrants.

    I think we should be careful with the "enemy of my enemy" concept, it's not always true...

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    Grin

    Years 2003 / 2004 .
    Fourteen years gone by now.

    I think, for Europe the question, about if
    Jews or Muslimes would be some kind of thread, is answered.

    It would need twenty years of 100'000 Muslims
    migrating into the U.S. to answer that question
    for the Germanics over the pond also.

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    No, just another enemy, even if they are the enemy of another enemy
    Our beauty is our power, our strength. We can’t allow them to change us, to lessen us. I will never grant them that satisfaction, and neither should you!

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