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    Do Nationalists/Preservationists Etc. Really Stand a Chance?

    What do you think? Does nationalism in your country stand a chance? Are nationalist/preservationist political parties/organisations making any progress, gaining significant support? Do we still have a chance? Why/Why not?

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    In the Netherlands i guess not, we have no real Nationalist movement or political party.
    Preservation is seen is racism here by most people, and alot of the people dont care about politics at all.

    Then the few movements that we have that call themself Nationalist or say they are for preservation of Germanic heritage and culture are Neo-Nazi's so no real Nationalists they make it even worser for us to let people listen, as the majority of the people think Neo-Nazi's and Nationalists are the same.
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    I believe American nationalists stand more chances than European nationalists. We have Ron Paul. Germany has the NPD, a party full of neonazi skinheads who make a joke out of nationalism and who will contribute to banning the party.


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    In England we have a political system widely despised, a third of the electorate don't vote. We have high levels of immigration. Job losses are usually due to globalisation, yet the nationalist movement is still tiny. We have to realise that internationalism/globalism is the agenda of the governments of our countries, having been bought off years ago. In the face of such overwhelming control over the world by advocates of globalism, the picture is a tad grim. We can't realistically challenge the dominant ideas - what I call McCulture, McEconomics etc of the the neo-liberals and neocons. They aren't going to go away - so we just have to try and walk that long hard road, doing what we can in small ways to defend our heritage. We can't turn the clock back, but that doesn't stop us from 'huddling together' and trying to educate others about our belief in identity, traditions etc.

    But there's room for optimism - scratch most people and you will find a preservationist.

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    Italy might be breaking the ice, but then I had similar hopes back when Haider was elected in Austria.
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    It won't come from an election, it will be a long uphill struggle. We have to increase awareness of our heritage amongst our people, increase our birthrate, and infiltrate and take back the influential institutions in our homelands.

    It can be done though, 100 years ago everyone would have laughed if you told them that a century later jews would have a strong ethnic homeland and massive influence in other countries and chinamen would be on track to become the most powerful nation on the planet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drim View Post
    In the Netherlands i guess not, we have no real Nationalist movement or political party.
    You had NieuwRechts for a while but that one imploded afther the last local elections and was near bankruptcy for delivering their declarations to late. Alto I think if a more mainstream party, or even a far left party would only had gotten a warning and didn't have to pay back all the money.

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    In a word, no, I do not think it is hopeless. Far from it. Things are going to get worse before they get better, but the more third world immigration increases, the stronger the opposition to it will become.

    Every mugging, rape (gang or otherwise) and assault, every stolen mobile, wallet or purse, every incident of mindless vandalism, sexual harassment and hooligalism creates a new nationalist/preservationist/etc. It's that simple.

    I have a question though: if you did think it was all hopeless, would you give it all up, or march on to the bitter end nevertheless? I've seen (and to a greater extent, heard) it happen -- people giving up, and settling to an easy existence of TV, alcohol, internet poker and financially negotiable race-mixing while holidaying in Thailand. While I myself cannot see that as a possibility, I sometimes find it hard to altogether condemn people who go down that route. What do you think?

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    It is too bad that European nationalists have not followed up on the example shown by Pim Fortuyn. He divorced an anti-immigration platform from social conservatism and was close to victory in the Netherland when he was assassinated.

    I think movements to expell the Muslim colonies from Europe would get far more support if they were not also pushing for narrow cultural conformity among Europeans.
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