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    Albanians Harvested Organs from Serbs

    I couldn't believe it, when I read this...

    Kosovan army 'harvested organs from Serb prisoners'

    During Nato's bombing of Serbia in 1999, Kosovan Albanian guerrillas transported hundreds of Serbian prisoners into northern Albania where they were killed, and their organs "harvested" and trafficked out of Tirana airport, claims Carla del Ponte, the former chief prosecutor for war crimes in former Yugoslavia. Del Ponte claims are based on what she describes as credible reports and witnesses.

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    China also does this with prisoners and I fail to see anything wrong with it.

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    : Killing people to harvest their organs & sell them on the black market & you see nothing wrong with it. It sounds very ghoulish to me. People who would do this sort of thing are subhuman.

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    I wonder if the claims will ever be investigated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evolved View Post
    China also does this with prisoners and I fail to see anything wrong with it.
    Erm, POWs and Convicted Criminals are a little different, aren't they?

    Albanians... I keep having to tell myself that surely there must be some good Albanians somewhere, and that wiping them off the face of the Earth would be excessive, but it's difficult...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    : Killing people to harvest their organs & sell them on the black market & you see nothing wrong with it. It sounds very ghoulish to me. People who would do this sort of thing are subhuman.
    If they are war criminals, murderers, drug dealers and such scheduled for execution, I see nothing wrong with harvesting organs from them. Of course it is a profitable commodity to the harvesters who aren't doing this for humanitarian reasons, but it will ultimately save/improve the lives of many innocent people who spend years wasting away waiting for organ and tissue transplants. In the case of China, the remains of executed prisoners are usually unclaimed by relatives, they go into unmarked graves which no one will visit.

    At the cessation of the life-breath, the human stops being a person and becomes a corpse, a thing. That doesn't mean scientists have a right to do anything they want with these remains (i.e. abuse/violate them, make some sort of public mockery of them), but if they sell body parts to people needing them and willing to pay, it doesn't really bother me ethically. Throwing away perfectly good organs and tissue out of some superstitious notion of "human sanctity," life after death or Judeo-Christian burial rites is sick.

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    I think "harvesting" organs is probably immoral 95% of the time. Anytime Jewish doctors are involved, let alone Jewish "ethicists", I smell something rotten. The Chinese government is immoral also. I will not donate organs nor will I allow family members to do so. I want their lives saved and I want to know that ever effort was made to do that. I don't want to think for one second that the life of my loved one was cut short because of a demand for a particular body part.

    Orthodox Jews do not donate body parts. Orthodox Jews do accept body parts. I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    I wonder if the claims will ever be investigated.
    Highly doubtfull, [sarcasm-mode]remember these Albanians are our friends and allies[/sarcasm-mode].

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    I don't think that the sanctity of the corpse is purely a "Judeo-Christian" concept, and if I recall, many Serbs are Orthodox Christians. I don't think they'd appreciate having their organs removed and sold without their permission. I doubt many of the Serbs captured by these guerillas are "murders, war criminals, and drug dealers".

    In this case the entire issue is completely wrong. It should not have been done:

    the victims had their kidneys removed before being killed later and having other organs taken.

    "Prisoners were aware of the fate that awaited them, and according to the source pleaded, terrified, to be killed immediately," Del Ponte writes.
    Hmm, I'm sure most professional doctors remove the kidneys while the donor is still alive (and probably not anesthised), right? ^^

    The victims were said to include Albanians and trafficked women from Russia and Eastern Europe forced to work as prostitutes.
    Of course these types of people don't need their organs either, might as well donate them for humanitarian purposes to rich people who want to live longer.

    Other sources claim the body parts were flown to Istanbul where they were transplanted into wealthy Arab patients.
    All the organs go to help those people in need who can't afford them.

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