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    Question Ruby Ridge?

    Most Americans know what Ruby Ridge is and the affect it had on us...it also had a small affect on the Aryan Nations. Read this and tell me your opinions. The link is different than the piece below


    http://www.boogieonline.com/revoluti...rce/rubyridge/


    David Niven, a defense lawyer involved in the subsequent court case, noted later: "The U.S. marshals called in military aerial reconnaissance and had photos studied by the Defense Mapping Agency. ... They had psychological profiles performed and installed $130,000 worth of solar-powered long-range spy cameras. They intercepted the Weavers' mail. They even knew the menstrual cycle of Weaver's teenage daughter, and planned an arrest scenario around it."

    On August 21, 1992, the siege began in earnest. Six U.S. marshals, armed and camouflaged, went onto Weaver's property to conduct undercover surveillance. When Weaver's dogs started barking, they shot one of them.

    Weaver's 25-year-old friend Kevin Harris and 14-year-old son Sammy and saw the dog die. Sammy Weaver fired his gun towards the agents as his dad yelled for him to come back to the cabin. "I'm coming, Dad," were Sammy Weaver's last words before he was shot in the back and killed by a U.S. marshal.

    Kevin Harris, witnessing the agents' killing of the dog and child, fired at the agents in self-defense, killing one of them.

    After the initial shootout, the Weavers and Harris retreated into their cabin, and a small army surrounded the area. Says Bovard: "the commander of the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team was called in, and ordered federal agents to shoot any armed adult outside the Weaver cabin, regardless of whether that person was doing anything to threaten or menace federal agents. (Thanks to the surveillance, federal officials knew that the Weavers always carried guns when outside their cabin.)"

    Against a handful of rural Idahoans with shotguns, the U.S. arrayed four hundred federal agents with automatic weapons, sniper rifles and night vision scopes.

    On August 22, 1992, Randy Weaver went to see his son's body in the shack where it lay. He was shot and wounded from behind by FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi. As Weaver struggled back to his house, Horiuchi assassinated his wife Vicki as she stood in the doorway, holding their 10-month-old baby.

    Although the feds later claimed Vicki Weaver's killing was an accident, the New York Times reported in 1993 that an internal FBI report justified the killing by saying she put herself in danger. Horiuchi testified in court that he was an accurate shot at 200 yards.

    Everything about the federal government's actions in this case is sickening, but possibly the worst was their taunting of the Weaver family after Vicki Weaver's murder: "Good morning, Mrs. Weaver. We had pancakes for breakfast. What did you have?" That was one of the FBI's tactics revealed in court records, reported by Jerry Seper in the Washington Times in September 1993.

    After the initial shootout, the only shots fired were by federal agents. Eleven days after the shootout Randy Weaver surrendered.

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    It's totally disgusting what the FBI did, and believe it or not the only time I've ever heard about this was only a few months ago first online and then there was something on tv shortly after that. They did not mention, however, that the government had spyed so intrusively. I can't believe they can do that!!! Would it have helped for them to put curtains up or did they have cameras inside too?? That can't be legal to spy like that. (They also made Weaver look like a coward, in my opinion, on tv) And of course not to mention that they completely tore apart that family, forever.

    That pisses me off this whole world and it's one government pisses me off. Soon they will be doing that and getting away with it as this world becomes more and more corrupt under ZOGs heavy chains.

    But what I really wonder is why he didn't just go to court if he knew he was innocent anyway, rather than putting his family in danger........

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    I had a chance to have a few drinks with Randy Weaver about a year ago or so. I meet him at a gun show here and talked with him about his book and such and then a few of us went out for drinks. It was suppose to be us taking him out for a drink but it turned into him taking us out. He is a very intelligent, well spoken and strong man. He spoke freely about Ruby Ridge and his family and all they went through. That man saw more and went through more then many could even stand tall through. He spoke of Vicky and said she was nothing like they made her out to be. She was CI but not so "hardcore" like they tried to make her out. I believe he didn't go to court for his own reasons and the reasons him and Vicky discussed between themselves. Even if he had went to court there is no reason to believe this would not of happened anyway.

    He is a very nice man and a great person to sit down and talk to and through a few drinks back with and I am glad I had the chance to sit and talk with him and hear his side of everything!!

    Tereasa

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    Post A drink with Weaver..

    Wau, that is great, that you knocked back a pint with Randy Weaver. It makes me sick to my stomach what happened to him and his family, just goes to show you how zog is.

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    As I understand it, they weren't offered a chance to go to court. The zog/feds fired first anyway. I wouldn't want to surrender to the people who just shot my unarmed 13 year-old in the back. I think the feds just wanted an all out shooting match so they could kill everyone & come up with some "kook" story. They didn't quite get it right with Weaver so they perfected it (?see "Rules of Engagement" on video) on the Branch Davidians.

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    Ruby Ridge video

    I found a great video on Youtube which interviews Randy Weaver and his daughter after their deadly encounter with the US Govt.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsuDBAj62KM

    For those of you who are not familiar with this incident. Back in 1992 Agents of the United States Federal Govt murdered Mr Weaver's wife and 14 year old son. His son was shot multiple times in the back and an FBI sniper murdered his wife with a shot through her head while she stood in a doorway holding her infant child. The Govt falsely portrayed Weaver as a radical "White Supremecist". Weaver served 2 years for a firearms violation and was later cleared of all charges by a Federal Judge. The state of Idaho attempted to charge the FBI sniper with murder but was later over turned by Federal Judges. Details of this incident can be found here...

    http://www.stormfront.org/ruby.htm

    This was one year prior to the infamousWaco massacre where our Federal Govt murdered 21 children.

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    Video: Ruby Ridge

    Video documentary of the tragic siege and deliberate assassinations of the Weaver Family done on behalf of the United States Federal Government. This, in my opinion is but a taste of what's to come for political dissidents around the world. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.


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