View Poll Results: Who/what are you loyal to?

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  • My people

    67 74.44%
  • My government

    4 4.44%
  • My family

    61 67.78%
  • My friends

    51 56.67%
  • My partner/spouse

    48 53.33%
  • My religion

    28 31.11%
  • My ideology

    52 57.78%
  • My principles

    60 66.67%
  • Other

    10 11.11%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reshki View Post
    That's the crux of the issue. Those who entered service swore an oath to The Constitution, NOT the government.

    I don't think a lot of the younger guys understand the difference, and I believe that is because the difference is no longer taught in schools as it was when I was growing up.
    Yeah, I know.

    I just wish that people would think about and recognize the difference between the two. They're not one and the same and one does not equal the other.

    One's a noble idea regarding the basic concept of freedom that's spelled out in black and white and the other is a group of corrupt people that lie daily in order to stay in office and that try to undermine that document in order to grab more power.

    Even with the Founding Fathers once they got into office and gained power they ended up trampling on peoples rights ('Shays Rebellion' - 'The Whiskey Rebellion' etc). Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    And the people in the US Government today are a far cry away from being the men that the Founding Fathers were.

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    Agreed.

    Another thing people don't understand is why we are the United States, not the United Provinces. Each State was to be, in effect, a nation unto itself. The federal government existing for the sole purpose of mediating between States, representing the States in foreign affairs, and maintaining a standing Navy. They've way overstepped their boundaries, thanks to the ignorance of the citizenry. People have even come to think of the president as a king, when he's not. Constitutionally, your State governor has more direct authority over you than the president does (and your county Sheriff has more authority than a lot think).

    Although lately, the States seem to be willing to wield their Constitutional powers to say "no" to the socialist ambitions of the president. I see this as a good thing.

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    In an ideal society, it is impossible to be loyal to any one of those things without being loyal to all of them. In a broken society such as our own, few of those things have any meaning.

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    I am loyal to my family. Always. For most people, family is always there for you no matter what you have done. This is not the case for friends a lot of the time, unless the bond of trust is so deep that you may as well call them family anyway.

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    I agree with tigerlily on that one.

    On a sidenote, I also really hate people who can't see the difference between laws and morality/ethics. For example, those who argue that it's okay to do military intervention in a country because UN decided it.

    UN does not equal morality, ethics or necessarily the right choice.
    The same goes for local laws, but people seem to regard the UN more often as a moral standard body.

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    What/Who Are You Loyal To?


    My people: I consider "My people" as the Folkish Heathens that realize that our Blood and Volk are from the Gods and make up the past, present, and future of our Faith and Volk!

    My government: Screw the Gov, if it isnt from our own Volk and operated from our Volk, then it isnt ours or part of me!

    My family: My Family is my blood, I come from them and they come from me. If they are not on the same page as me then I deal with them as I would any other person with respect.

    My friends: I try to flock with my ilk. I find some friends are more solid than some of my family members, therefore an extended family they become.

    My partner/spouse: Of course since its the woman I love.

    My religion: Of course I am loyal to it, it is what I believe!

    My ideology: Ditto

    My principles: Ditto
    Why are you just sitting there?!
    Do something!
    Our Folk are vanishing!

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    The Third Reich in Exile. Within a set number of years we shall see them again. And it will be third time lucky.

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    I'm loyal to those who deserve my loyalty. Enough said
    Let truth and falsehood grapple...truth is strong-
    John Milton

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    I'm loyal to my husband, and then to those who I trust will stand by me in times of hardship.

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