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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn View Post
    Concentrating on the countryside - where only a tiny population lives in most western countries - is effectively the same as ignoring the cities.
    It depends. The first step is to get strength, this should be done in the countryside, while ignoring the cities, after that the cities will have to be conquered.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn View Post
    Ignoring the 80-90% of the population in order to go after the 10-20% of the population that have the least exposure to immigration, and the least reason to act against it, isn't a recipe for success imo.
    I see we have a misunderstanding, before we can think about getting the support of the masses, we need a functional elite, this elite doesn't need the degenerates from the cities.
    In all history we fared best, when only a minority took the lead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn View Post
    I don't know, urbanisation hasn't been too bad for us. The Greek city states, Rome, Byzantium, the City states of Renaissance northern Italy, etc.
    It is interesting that you name those empires who went down not late after they established such mega cities, I see one reason for that exactly because of urbanization.
    Cities have a cultural purpose, but if they grow to strong in size, they become contrary to how humans evolved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn View Post
    Personally i love the countryside, but there's no practical way in hell that you could support the population densities we have in western Europe without having massive cities.
    And that from a Briton Sent your sons into the world eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn View Post
    Roosevelt, Churchill, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Hannibal Barca, The Duke of Wellington, Napoleon, Lenin, were all city boys.
    Insofar bad examples, as most of your examples didn't really live in the cities, they just had their own "villages" (castles) within, and lived their own "city live" there, separated from all others for the most time.
    Another things is that e.g. the city Nepoleon stems from was not really an urbanized city, in most of Europe, urbanization didn't take place until the 18th century to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    It depends. The first step is to get strength, this should be done in the countryside, while ignoring the cities, after that the cities will have to be conquered.
    The cities are where the greatest potential resources of money, people, influence and power are. In terms of gathering strength, there is simply no reason to concentrate on the countryside.

    I see we have a misunderstanding, before we can think about getting the support of the masses, we need a functional elite, this elite doesn't need the degenerates from the cities.
    In all history we fared best, when only a minority took the lead.
    Well history is made by minorities of course, the majority of the population are only ever static observers. But successful minorities are defined by a unity of purpose and the will and ability to follow their beliefs to their ultimate conclusion. But it has nothing to do with where they live, and someone living in the countryside does nothing to make them more 'elite' than anyone else.

    It is interesting that you name those empires who went down not late after they established such mega cities, I see one reason for that exactly because of urbanization.
    Cities have a cultural purpose, but if they grow to strong in size, they become contrary to how humans evolved.
    All of those i mentioned were founded on the basis of city power. Besides, almost everything in modern life is contrary to how humans evolved. We evolved to hunt wild animals across savanahs and through dense forests. Cropping and milling wheat, or herding sheep, has only the tiniest relationship to human evolution.

    And that from a Briton Sent your sons into the world eh?
    The colonisation carried out by the British Empire was an attempt to deal with the population pressures at home. But the British Empire itself, and the colonisation carried out by Britain and others in the new world, wouldn't have been possible without cities.

    Insofar bad examples, as most of your examples didn't really live in the cities, they just had their own "villages" (castles) within, and lived their own "city live" there, separated from all others for the most time.
    I've lived in a city all my life, and this is carried out by everyone who lives in a city. People don't mix in one huge mass with with a mixture of all influences. You choose your friends, and you choose your interests, you choose your home, and you spend most of your time with/doing/or in one of them (although that sounds wrong when i put it like that...).

    Another things is that e.g. the city Nepoleon stems from was not really an urbanized city, in most of Europe, urbanization didn't take place until the 18th century to begin with.
    But we're not applying modern standards to historical times. In historical terms, the people i mentioned came from towns/cities that were considered extremely large and overcrowded at the time.

    We're also - since we're drifting off topic here - discussing the situation today and not thousands of years ago. Today, to get anything we want, we need to control the cities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn View Post
    Today, to get anything we want, we need to control the cities.
    "We" have nothing to start with, "we" are an end before the start, "we" don't even know what "we" want!

    The city harbors those people who are the least likely to accept our ideas, simply because of their degeneration.
    E.g. every farmer knows what race is, they understand the way of life, and death.
    The city produces the kind that scares away when a cow is slaughtered, but at the same time, they accept that those have to crawl in their own shit, just to fulfill their meat demand.
    Those people are away from life, but we want to live!

    Depending on the situation, we just have to be in the cities, in so far I agree, but we should know very well, that this is our weak spot, and if only it means that we can't decide the place of "battle".
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    I believe all Germanic countries and settlements must be preserved and must liberate themselves. It would benefit European-Germanics if the U.S. liberated itself because then the Jews would lose their world police dog.
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    Germanics shouldnt leave there countries at all, what is this why are people even thinking about giving up there country?

    The best way to keep the Germanic preservation is to fight for it, fight for your people,nation and culture i will never give up my country as your nothing but a betrayer then in my eyes.
    If christ is the answer then what is the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thileman View Post
    Germanics shouldnt leave there countries at all, what is this why are people even thinking about giving up there country?

    The best way to keep the Germanic preservation is to fight for it, fight for your people,nation and culture i will never give up my country as your nothing but a betrayer then in my eyes.
    I want to agree, but for any culture to thrive, it needs sufficient numbers in a small area. That would mean that we have to pick a spot to build our civilization back up to reasonable size.

    As to the original question -- I'd say Scandinavia, but I think if worst came to worst, we should try for the moon or mars.

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    Thumbs Up Homeland,Southern Africa

    Hi there.Piet Blackwolf from Cape Town,South Africa.You should starting to look at Southern Africa as a homeland.We have [1]the space here,[2]our climate is much better than yours,we don't freez to death here and we don't get blowned away by the wind like in the U.S.A.,the Germans had South West Africa for a short time.[3]With your high tecnologic,you will have enough minirals right here,where as you have to import it.[4]Then all this funny things that happened in Nature the last couple of years,we will be much safer here than anywhere else in the World.

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    What's wrong with staying in Germany?

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    I say Northern England, we still hold a Germanic majority here (I'm sure many Northerners can vouch for this).

    Of course so does many parts of the USA.

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    Wisconsin/Minnesota is a good choice. 92% white in Wisconsin. Strong Germanic traditions. Good resources and plenty of water--the ultimate resource.

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