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    European-Americans with Amerindian Ancestry

    This is common in America, my ex gf used to go on about Cherokee ancestry and rights to Cherokee land seyes yet it is laughable, she's a redhead and as white as a ghost. She has the most Gaelic name imaginable (well, almost.)

    I have a negligible amount of blood from some tribe in the Iroqois confederacy, but you don't see me making a "big song and dance about it" as the English say.
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    What I would like to know is how many European-Americans actually have some Amerindian blood in them. Is there any unbiased and reliable study that has been done to that effect? I think there are atleast 3 here on the Althing alone. It's definitely interesting. I also wonder where most of this mixing occurred in the US. It seems to me that most happened in the South. I wonder why that is too.

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    I'm one of those who admit to some Amerindian ancestry. Very remote & as a percentage of my total ancestry insignificant. Incidently after I mentioned my Amerindian ancestry a few persons admitted to me by rep comment that they too had remote Amerindian ancestry - but I'm not going to out anyone .

    Generally European-Amerindian pairing were not the norm in colonial America. As a rule the English immigrated in family groups. And it makes no sense for the Indians to have given their women in marriage to the Europeans in great numbers that would cause a sexual imbalance among the various tribes. And the numbers of Indians in what is now the US & Canada were very small compared to area from central Mexico down through the Andes in South America. Most European-Amerindian pairings in North America were probably between European trappers who went native or from European women & children taken captive by Indian tribes. However if your ancestors have been in North America for 300+years or at least ten generations - which would be 1,024 ancestors at the tenth generation - then there is a good chance you might be descended from one of those European-Amerindian pairings that were the exception & who's offspring were obsorbed into the White community & not into one of the Indian tribes. But that would hardly qualify someone for a share of casino profits.
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    My ancestry in the US goes back to early colonial times but so far I haven't discovered any Amerindian ancestors. Most of my ancestors were of the Puritan & Pilgrim variety and small farmers in New England. I have an ancestor who was from Virginia. He deserted the Confederate army after Gettysburg apparently and made his way North. I have traced his line back into the early 1700's but there are some places where I don't know the names of wives so I can't say for sure that none of them had Amerindian ancestry. The South seems particularly hard to gather genealogical info from that far back.

    Actually, at the moment I am trying to find out if the maiden name of one of the women I am related to was "Taliaferro". "Taliaferro" is apparently an Old Virginian family surname that was initially carried to England by an Italian merchant in the early 1600's...

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    Since this is its own separate thread now I might as well ask. Can anyone post some nice maps showing where Native American reservations are today in the US and also maybe one showing which tribes lived where back in the pre-colonial days?


    I was recently talking about Amerindian place names we can still observe in the USA to my friend. I could think of Chippewa, Susquehanna (both the county and river), Lackawanna county PA, Mississippi state and river, Appalachia, Manayunk...I think that's near Philly, Tunkahannock (town in upstate PA), Susquehannock, Delaware, Dakota, Tennesee, Michigan.

    Are Alabama, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Kentucky, and Wisconsin also Indian names? Anyway, I kinda like places with Indian names. Funny how they seem more old-stock Euro-American nowadays than they do Indian. :p

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    The way I feel about it, being an anglo american with say 1/32 amerindian blood is just as mixed with "non-white" as a german that is 1/32 magyar. My mom said that her great-grandmother was 1/2 amerind and I said "maybe I'll grow a mohawk this year ah-wah-wah-wah a wah-wahwah"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Soten View Post
    Since this is its own separate thread now I might as well ask. Can anyone post some nice maps showing where Native American reservations are today in the US and also maybe one showing which tribes lived where back in the pre-colonial days?
    I've attached a couple of maps, one showing reservations in the lower 48 states (a total of 55 million acres) & another showing the languages that were spoken at the Columbian discovery of the New World.

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    Are Alabama, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Kentucky, and Wisconsin also Indian names? Anyway, I kinda like places with Indian names. Funny how they seem more old-stock Euro-American nowadays than they do Indian. :p
    Alabama, Kansas, Oklahoma & Kentucky are all of Indian origin. I think Wisconsin is an Anglized version of a Francoized Indian name :033102st:. Arizona may be a local Indian word but there is also the theory that it is from the Spanish "Zona Arid" or "Arid Zona".
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    I have done genealogy research for friends with Oklahoma or deep South ancestry, and I can sometimes find an Indian listed on 1800's census rolls. Sometimes you can see the ancestry in their features, and other times not at all.

    There does seem to be a trend to Amerindian ancestry among people from the South, and also sometimes the Southwest, especially Oklahoma. I don't see this so much in New England or the Northwest. I am not too sure about the Midwest or inland north, I haven't worked on people's trees from there much.

    I haven't had a lot of problems finding information on people from the South, the records seem to be there. There weren't many people living there before 1800, but there are usually records for marriages and the like. The problem is that frequently you find that someone living in the South was from Virginia, England or whatever, and you can never find anything else about them. I don't know if it was bad record keeping or if people were trying to hide Native American (or Black or illegitimate) ancestry.

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    I know a kid who is 1/8 Cherokee (Why is it always Cherokee?!?!). I wouldn't have noticed until one day he mentioned it randomly. After that I realized that his skintone had a definite ruddy redness to it. He never made a big deal out of it...but we made him make war whoops whenever we played sports from there on out.


    Not exactly about "European-Americans with Amerindian Ancestry" but more like early American contact with Amerindians...My one German ancestor came to Pennsylvania around 1749 and moved way out into the woods of Northern PA. Back in those days, that part of the continent was considered "the West". Hardly anyone lived out there and there were still Indians running about. Well, he and some other Germans made a little clay-brick church out there and that was there place of worship until some Indians burnt and destroyed the place. So my ancestor and the other German immigrants rebuilt the place and didn't seem to have problems with Indians ever again. Sometimes I wonder why the Indians never came back...

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