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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    Nonsense. I have two female friends who are great but they don't want to have anything of sexual nature with me.
    I said it is an subjective view, a mere opinion, so a discussion is pointless, however your sad smiley indicates that I am right
    I shouldn't have brought it up, but it is not the base of my argument anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    The obstacle evidently is, that they don't want sex.
    Ya, it simply adds another obstacle. I didn't say anything more, of course obstacles can be overcome.
    It doesn't, I wouldn't call asexuality a big problem anyway, however the principle is clear, and the rise of this number should be fought.
    This is a non-argument, since all it would do would slow the explosion down, furthermore there are more effective ways to ensure this, namely competition, struggle about resources.
    Well, the thread starter was talking about platonic love and the dislike of sex, your exaggeration doesn't quite fit. It's just if a man/woman loves, he/she should go the whole way, not stop right in the middle.
    I would even go further and claim that women can't form friendships with other women. They do have social bondings, and I guess in a more general sense it is even acceptable to call these relations friendship, but I for the most part can't, however, this is purely subjective so far.
    Well, if I wanted a child I'd also have sex for it. After all, a viagra pill and some some minutes of work are still the better alternative compared with the suffering of the female in the period of extracting her ovum and the money it would cost.
    It would prevent a population explosion if the genes making female get asexual or homosexual offspring became more successful.
    Asexuals do not dislike sex, they just don't find anybody attractive. Platonic relationships do also not necessarily mean the absense of classical ones.
    How do you want to fight the number of asexuals or homosexuals?
    It seems true that women rarely have serious friendships though. They usually just pretend to like eachother but talk really bad behind eachother's back and seem as if they were arch-enemies. However, I do have some female friends and most of them even agree that it's easier to have friendships with men without sexual interest in them than with other females.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    It would prevent a population explosion if the genes making female get asexual or homosexual offspring became more successful.
    This prevention is insufficient. Life needs to get born and tested, if the environment doesn't let it happen, they will die, but preventing the birth in the first place, is a method bound to failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    Asexuals do not dislike sex, they just don't find anybody attractive.
    Semantic nitpicking

    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    How do you want to fight the number of asexuals or homosexuals?
    Firstly, the cause for these traits needs to be researched better, then we can talk about the actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    However, I do have some female friends and most of them even agree that it's easier to have friendships with men without sexual interest in them than with other females.
    There are always exceptions. Anomalies of the matrix so to say

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridie View Post
    In my other post I stated that platonic love is necessary for a healthy community in the context of it allowing good male/female interrelations that are outside of sexual relationships.
    Well, the term platonic love certainly can be extensive, that's why I focused on asexuality in general. Evidently a father has some kind of platonic love for his daughter, etc.
    So I certainly agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    This prevention is insufficient. Life needs to get born and tested, if the environment doesn't let it happen, they will die, but preventing the birth in the first place, is a method bound to failure.


    Semantic nitpicking


    Firstly, the cause for these traits needs to be researched better, then we can talk about the actions.


    There are always exceptions. Anomalies of the matrix so to say


    Well, the term platonic love certainly can be extensive, that's why I focused on asexuality in general. Evidently a father has some kind of platonic love for his daughter, etc.
    So I certainly agree
    Actually, something like this is already happening. I'm too lazy to look for the articles again but research has proved statistically that the chance of having queer offspring increases with the number of previously born children hence the third child has a way higher chance to be born queer than the firstborn. This finding supports the thesis that sexuality is determined biologically but not genetically so if there if there will still be a demographic problem in the future it might be able to prevent children to become queer through simply eleminating the cause.
    It's not nitpicking because it's a big difference between asexuality and antisexuality. According to not-representative surveys in the, by far, biggest asexual online community, the majority of asexuals is just indifferent to sex hence would do it for procreation (just like faithful catholics ).
    Well, asexuality has not been researched so far but homosexuality has so what would you do against homosexuality?
    Sure ,most females are like that, I agree. Unfortunately, my female friends are just exceptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    I'm too lazy to look for the articles again but research has proved statistically that the chance of having queer offspring increases with the number of previously born children hence the third child has a way higher chance to be born queer than the firstborn.
    In science statistics prove nothing, they are too weak, they give hints and indications, but I am sure it won't be the last word on it.
    However, if it would really be the case, that the more children we get, the higher the chance for them to be gay, we still would to need to research why it is like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    This finding supports the thesis that sexuality is determined biologically but not genetically so if there if there will still be a demographic problem in the future it might be able to prevent children to become queer through simply eleminating the cause.
    Eh, yes, that's what I said. I guess the best thing is to look at homosexuality and asexuality as an illness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    It's not nitpicking because it's a big difference between asexuality and antisexuality.
    If you don't find anyone attractive, then you don't like to have sex with anyone, if you are indifferent to have sex with someone you don't find attractive, then this is another interesting anomaly of asexual.

    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    Well, asexuality has not been researched so far but homosexuality has so what would you do against homosexuality?
    I already said, that the state of homosexual research is not sufficient.
    But basically, if it would be genetic, sterilization or even gene tinkering would be an option, if it would be "just" biological, then we need to find the exact cause, if it is teachable, we need to separate the queers from society, or at least from contact with children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    In science statistics prove nothing, they are too weak, they give hints and indications, but I am sure it won't be the last word on it.
    However, if it would really be the case, that the more children we get, the higher the chance for them to be gay, we still would to need to research why it is like this.


    Eh, yes, that's what I said. I guess the best thing is to look at homosexuality and asexuality as an illness.


    If you don't find anyone attractive, then you don't like to have sex with anyone, if you are indifferent to have sex with someone you don't find attractive, then this is another interesting anomaly of asexual.


    I already said, that the state of homosexual research is not sufficient.
    But basically, if it would be genetic, sterilization or even gene tinkering would be an option, if it would be "just" biological, then we need to find the exact cause, if it is teachable, we need to separate the queers from society, or at least from contact with children.
    More research is indeed needed. Not only on this topic but on almost everything.

    Why an illness? It's just a trait not favourable for many parents and does not fulfill the internationally recognised criteria for illnesses.

    Asexuality does not mean being repulsed by sex. We just don't find anybody attractive and that's all. Seems to be really hard to get for many...

    I personally don't see why queers are a problem anyways. They've been existing for all of humanity so far and why should it become a problem nowadays? The problem is simply that heterosexuals do not have children anymore. So what is your problem with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    . Asexuals are people who don't like sex. They can still have relationships, but without sex (platonic).
    Do they have a normal reproduction system? Both men and women? Maybe they don't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    Do they have a normal reproduction system? Both men and women? Maybe they don't have.
    Last time I checked I had everything needed for hypothetical reproduction.
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    Asexuality: Sexual Orientation, Paraphilia, Sexual Dysfunction, or None of the Above?

    This paper concludes asexuality is heterogeneous (more than one cause). By now its well known that a low sex drive is a side effect of introversion. When people feel down, their sex drive decreases as they shun contact more generally.

    Although lack of sexual attraction was first quantified by Kinsey, large-scale and systematic research on the prevalence and correlates of asexuality has only emerged over the past decade. Several theories have been posited to account for the nature of asexuality. The goal of this review was to consider the evidence for whether asexuality is best classified as a psychiatric syndrome (or a symptom of one), a sexual dysfunction, or a paraphilia. Based on the available science, we believe there is not sufficient evidence to support the categorization of asexuality as a psychiatric condition (or symptom of one) or as a disorder of sexual desire. There is some evidence that a subset of self-identified asexuals have a paraphilia. We also considered evidence supporting the classification of asexuality as a unique sexual orientation. We conclude that asexuality is a heterogeneous entity that likely meets conditions for a sexual orientation, and that researchers should further explore evidence for such a categorization.
    http://link.springer.com/article/10....508-016-0802-7

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