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    Thumbs Up Classify ϟϟ-Standartenführer Joachim Peiper

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    I classify him as Pred. Faelid with Nordid Influences.




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    Facial features look Phalian here indeed

    But I wonder if other photos show dinaricisaition (nostrils, nose shape).











    I agree he is predominantly Phalian in any case.

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    He seems predominantly Nordid to me, with visible Faelid characteristcs. The former is more apparent in his early years, however. Examining close-ups of his nose, I see no visible Dinaricization; the length and width appear typically Nordid, which again is altered with age.

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    This thread ended very quickly and with no definite classification agreed upon by a majority. I can see the Phalian influence that was mentioned but is he a textbook example of this? His nose looks unusual so is it possible that there is some dinarid influence? I tried to locate a profile shot but could not find one that was in good enough shape to be studied. Anybody else want to give this a try?

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    He is simply a Dalofaelid/Nordid in my opinion, with the Dalofaelid part being dominant. All the Dalofaelid characteristics being present, but on the whole narrower/longer and more gracile.

    His somewhat unusual nose for those types is not enough for me to say he definitely has Dinarid admixture. It is probably just individual variation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sybren View Post
    His somewhat unusual nose for those types is not enough for me to say he definitely has Dinarid admixture. It is probably just individual variation.
    Is it possible for a Germanic to have such an unusual septum without being classified as having admixture? I wish we had a photo of his occiput, which might make it easier to determine if something else is going on here.

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    Predominantly Hallstatt Nordid with Faelid and Dinarid influence.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erhard_LAH View Post
    Predominantly Hallstatt Nordid with Faelid and Dinarid influence.


    Agree. No way this man with these gracile and narrow facial features was "pred Faelid".

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    He was a Germanic/Hallstatt Nordic, probably with minor UP admix.

    Not sure about Dinaric admixture. I think those aberrant aspects of his face like the brows, and specially the wide nostrils, could well be explained by some Phalian-like UP admix. I think, at most, the Dinaric influence could be very slight.

    Despite his ancestry, his look is rather West German, in my opinion, and if I saw him in Sweden I would definitely guess Västra Götaland rather than Svealand. However, he passes for Danish more than any other Scandinavian nationality.

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    Corded-Faelid.

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    His wife looked even more Nordic than him. She gave him some kids, which can be seen in the picture. His daughter looks somewhat Phalian and his son more Nordic.

    In the pic above, Peiper reminds me a bit of the former Danish PM and of Thulesen-Dahl.

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    https://www.altinget.dk/images/ft19/...dahl-a-961.jpg


    Quote Originally Posted by walvyrmn View Post
    Corded-Faelid.
    He was "Corded" because he looked gracile and Western. ???????

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