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    New Form of German Develops in Urban (immigrant) Areas

    This can't be good

    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,...989308,00.html

    In multicultural urban areas of Germany, a new variant of German has evolved with its own grammar and rhythm. This ethnolect is spoken among young migrants of various ethnic backgrounds as well as young native Germans.

    Sarmad Ahmad, who is of Iraqi origin, first encountered this new variant of German when he and his family went to live in Berlin-Wedding, a district with a high immigrant population. He first came to Germany nine years ago and spent the first few months attending intensive German lessons.

    The 20-year-old can switch effortlessly from one type to the other. "My language split when I started mixing with the teenagers in this district. I can speak one way or the other. It's separate from the other language. It's as if it's ours. There are also Germans who have grown up here in this area who also use it too," he said.

    Similar phenomena have been noted elsewhere in Europe. Whereas in Britain no single overarching multilingual ethnolect appears to exist, it has been detected in Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands in areas with a high density of migrants.



    These European ethnolects even seem to share some common features -- despite differences because of variations in the languages involved, according to Inken Keim, Professor at the University of Mannheim and researcher at the Institute for German language. But it's not yet possible to say for sure. Academic research into this whole area is still in its early days -- both here in Germany and abroad. "It has a certain beat. Perhaps it has to do with tastes in music. That's still completely open at the moment," said Keim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    In multicultural urban areas of Germany.
    Its own rhytm.
    Is spoken among young migrants of various ethnic backgrounds as well as young native Germans.

    "It's separate from the other language. It's as if it's ours. There are also Germans who have grown up here in this area who also use it too"

    In areas with a high density of migrants.



    ethnolects
    "It has a certain beat.
    tastes in music.
    What type of music uses a beat and rhytm , uses it's own 'slang' , is popular with Non-European immigrants , has much popularity in poor and/or immigrant neighborhoods and starts to appeal more and more (often poor) white youth (that often live in multicultural neighborhoods) ?

    Indeed , it's rap and the hip-hop culture in general. More and more (white) teenagers are talking like those foolish rappers . And now even the linguists start thinking it's a dialect on its own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rik View Post
    Indeed , it's rap and the hip-hop culture in general. More and more (white) teenagers are talking like those foolish rappers . And now even the linguists start thinking it's a dialect on its own.
    Whit words like pimping and the like are being used as it means something good and respectable eyes: . Also I wouldn't be suprised if words of Saracean orgin are part of this new dialect.

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    It's wrong to call it a new Form of German. It's just a Slang which sounds totally dull and retarded. It got created out of how Immigrants speak German. So you can guess how it sounds. Very Ugly. Also only the Teenagers who listen to "Rap" talk like that because they believe that it sounds good.




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    With it those retards not to speak at least one language properly, which means they will always be at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder. Their idiocy secures German kids their jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rik View Post
    Indeed , it's rap and the hip-hop culture in general. More and more (white) teenagers are talking like those foolish rappers . And now even the linguists start thinking it's a dialect on its own.
    MushiFlo

    This is the best critique I found so far of the "rapization" of our youth.
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