View Poll Results: Partition, Repatriation or Apartheid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    Read more carefully;

    Meaning they already have land set aside for them. They have territories existing for them & many are already living there.
    Read more carefully:

    And not some lame white-mandated reservation or "play area", proper sovereign states so that they take responsibility for themselves and set their own entry requirements.

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    Check out the attached map. American Indians have reservations in the areas that were their tradition homelands & where they can set up their own sovereign nations - if they are willing to give up federal welfare benefits. They have their own courts, they get to set legal requirements as to who can be a member of their various tribes & they do get to restrict access to the reservations. The states were these reservations are located have no authority on the reservations. They cannot tax the tribes. The tribes deal directly with the federal government. All of them could be economically viable if managed properly. Some are. But withdrawing from the US would mean giving up entitlements. If they are not "proper sovereign states" as you would define the term, it is because the Indians are unwilling to take the necessary steps to become fully sovereign. At the moment they have the best of both worlds, sovereign nations but wards of the US government, entitle to handouts.

    As for the reservations being "White mandated", the victors always get to draw the boundaries. Standard practice since the beginning of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    As for the reservations being "White mandated", the victors always get to draw the boundaries. Standard practice since the beginning of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    As for the reservations being "White mandated", the victors always get to draw the boundaries. Standard practice since the beginning of time.
    Or we can learn from our old friend Mr Chavez and employ the right people to deal with the concerns of the indigenous people of his country.

    All this might is right stuff is nonsensical if we wish to deal with the problems we face in the here and now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood Axis View Post

    You opened the Pandora's box by colonizing those countries. You set the stage for globalization. So what gives you now the right to repatriate other colonials when you are not indigenous yourselves?
    And what gives you the right to have immigrants in Europe leave? Nothing. Rights are useless and senseless. You get rid of them because they are a threat to you and contribute little or nothing positive to your society, and that is all. You can hide in petty morality all you want, but everyone knows why. They are scum, and the scum of your country is no more or less worthy than that same plague of the colonial countries.

    Also, the British did not colonize Mexico, where the largest portion of our foriegn immigrants come from. Nice logic there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood Axis View Post
    You opened the Pandora's box by colonizing those countries. You set the stage for globalization. So what gives you now the right to repatriate other colonials when you are not indigenous yourselves?
    I believe we are indigenous. We have been here for centuries. If you have the right to call yourselves indigenous to Europe eventhough your ancestors did not originate in Europe, then we also have this right. I do not see what makes it more "immoral" in the case of Americans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier of Wodann View Post
    Rights are useless and senseless.
    Enough people fight for them so I think you might be missing their importance

    You are fighting for your own percieved rights here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyhawk View Post
    Enough people fight for them so I think you might be missing their importance
    Yeah, and people massacre each other over obsessive Jewish religions and economic systems too. I don't really give a shit what Plebs are convinced to fight over.
    Quote Originally Posted by skyhawk View Post
    You are fighting for your own percieved rights here.
    Not really. I am fighting because it is my sacred duty to do so and remove a parasite from my country. None of my "rights" are being infringed upon, because I don't have any. Nobody does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier of Wodann View Post
    Yeah, and people massacre each other over obsessive Jewish religions and economic systems too. I don't really give a shit what Plebs are convinced to fight over..
    That's because religion and economic systems have a huge impact on the lives of people. What happens today is the inheritance and history of tomorrow. You might not care what that inheritance is but others do and will contribute more by activism than by indifference


    Not really. I am fighting because it is my sacred duty to do so and remove a parasite from my country. None of my "rights" are being infringed upon, because I don't have any. Nobody does.
    " Fighting. ?" How? By coming to a forum and spouting elitist claptrap?

    I can't see how that will change things.

    I think Blaxis and OEN are right in their more realistic views on repatriation or national autonomy. Infact the views to the contrary displayed here have more than a dash old style colonialist mentality to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier of Wodann View Post
    Not really. I am fighting because it is my sacred duty to do so and remove a parasite from my country. None of my "rights" are being infringed upon, because I don't have any. Nobody does.
    So, the abstract concept of "rights" is a no-no, but the abstract concept of "duty" is not?
    Umm... Why?
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