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    ya i agree we both excel at diffferent things, but at the end of the day i think we are stronger, smarter when in the presence of one another. we compliment eachother perfectly.i could never disrespect a women in any way shape or formm for i feel i would be doing harm to the women who i respect and admire most in this world, my mother.

    on another note i would have no problem if my wife stayed home while we had kids. if she wanted to work thats her decision, but i would feel better knowing that my kids were in the hands of their mother, than some nut case in a daycare.
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    But no doubt, men living in a patriarchal society, where males are given far superior privileges to females from birth, will have more of a chance to succeed to powerful positions. The reverse would be true for females living in a matriarchal society that locks away and disempowers its males too.
    What is this horse __? Men are given far superior privileges from birth? If anything, girls are being encouraged to take over the world, CEO jobs, science jobs, math jobs... Women are going to college more than us, graduating more than us, and they still bitch about SATS, well, if men are doing so much better on SATs why are they being statistically slaughtered when compared to females admitted to college?

    How come when a man puts love before cold, hard pragmatism he's thinking with his d__ and when a woman does the same she's thinking "with her heart." ?

    If women are so oppressed, why do they control 66.7% of money yet only generate 1/3 of it?

    I always hear all this about men abusing women, here at college we have this "white ribbon campaign" where a man promises not to abuse a woman or a child. Because everyone knows as a man, I just love beating women and children. They didn't used to keep stats of women abusing men, but when they started doing it they found that man on woman violence was only slightly more than the opposite. Never to mention the cases that never get reported.

    All the time they're saturating the printed media with why it's great to be female, how men are becoming obsolete, how men might die off, how men are horrible, etc.

    A man is always supposed to initiate relationships, and may never take the submissive role even if that is his inherent nature.

    If a man is going to be seen as a potential mate by a female, he has to be hardcore.

    "There once was a knight who said his love was deeper than the depths of the sea, the lady dismissed him, and so he let her be. Another knight came, riding upon a horse, said he'd make her love him, she did, of course."

    The bucks have to bash horns together in a tooth and claw struggle, while the does just lay around wiggling their hinds.
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    Do You Believe in Equality Between Men and Women?

    Do you believe in equality between men and women? When people make these polls they're always asked to define what they mean, so equality in the context I want to discuss suggests equal access to resources and opportunities and equal participation in all realms of society for women and men.

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    The whole 'equality/inequality' debate is flawed to begin with. It just serves the interests of whoever wants to be on top.

    I don't believe in gender equality in the sense that you can't compare apples and oranges to see if they're equal or not. Both genders should be viewed as complementary to each other, and treat each other with respect.
    After all, we need each other

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    This topic pops up again and again on these type of fora. Usually it's a corollary to the "why aren't there any women in the "movement?" type of whining. Then, when women actually sign up and contribute to discussions, these same retard-o's start their bitching: "women should stay home raising kids, and more importantly, cooking my meals and washing my dirty socks, and let us Aryan supermen take care of the skraelings! Bitch, moan, whine, whimper, etc ... "

    I'm exaggerating a little, of course, but I'm sure you know what I mean.

    As for the actual topic, well, what can be said that hasn't been said dozens of times already? Are men and women "equal"? Are all women "equal" among themselves? All men? No, no, and no. So what? It isn't even a gender thing for me, really. Some people just are more worthy than others, and that's it. What their gender happens to be has nothing to do with it.

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    Men and women each have their roles in the world and those should be appreciated. I don't want to see men holding certain jobs just as I don't want to see women holding certain jobs and limited access to those jobs should not be perceived as a sign of disrespect or a robbery of freedom. Each sex has their own responsibilities to uphold, and when the boundaries are crossed, we lose hold of our purposes and traditional values. Futhermore, we confuse our future generations. Biologically, men and women are different, and socially we should be too or else the inherited positions and characteristics that have long since defined men and women become distorted and lost. As it has been said, we serve to complement eachother, not compete against eachother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    Do you believe in equality between men and women? When people make these polls they're always asked to define what they mean, so equality in the context I want to discuss suggests equal access to resources and opportunities and equal participation in all realms of society for women and men.
    Nope, and here's why: men and women are fundamentally different, and societies work best when things are structured around natural differences instead of pretending they don't exist. The latter is what our society (here in the US) is doing right now, with disastrous results. Because of these natural differences, women will always be less likely to succeed in certain professions; the same is true for men although the list of professions is different.

    Thanks to egalitarianism, our society tries to ignore natural differences in the hopes of "leveling the playing field" -- then, when things don't work out the way rowdy feminists want them to, they claim that there are "hidden obstacles" and that "institutionalized male dominance" must be combatted. What they don't seem to realize is that these differential outcomes spring mostly from nature, not from any unnatural bias.

    Plus, then there is the little issue of keeping the sexes apart for the purposes of maintaining separate identities. Trying to push everyone into the same mold only creates confusion and makes things worse for both sexes in the end.

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    I don't think men and women are equal. Men are men and women are women. Both have their roles in life, not just because a cultural matter but also natural issue. Although sometimes women do better some men's jobs and viceversa.

    One thing that bothers me a lot are those debates of "should the female quota of candidates be increased in, for example, the Senate or other government organisms?".

    Before you make any stance let me clear my point:

    What I mean is that it doesn't matter if it's a he or a she who does the job as long as it's well done. What's the point of having an all men government or an all women government if it will be the same corrupt power but with different sex?

    Governments shouldn't focus on how many men and women they have but in how many usefull people they need. That would be a real integrating experience.
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    I believe women should be traditional. This doesn't mean they should serve men as slaves only useful for cooking,cleaning, sex, and childbearing however. I think nature has assigned different roles for both genders, both equally important and necessary. This is the part where women typically yell at me and say "women can do anything men can do and usually better".
    “Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people, a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs-Jon Jay, Federalist Papers

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    Human beings are what we are because we were shaped by tens of thousands of years of evolution, with each generation molding into something slightly likely to be more successful at passing on its genes than the last. If the best thing for people was for all of us to be perfectly interchangeable in terms of what roles we should play, we would have evolved to be a-sexual, or maybe sex changeable like those frogs from Jurassic Park. We didn't. Men and women have different roles to play, and I find arguments in the other direction to be rather creepy.

    We are however equal in terms of value to society. We wouldn't be here without one another to begin with, and frankly if I were exclusively in the company of only men or only women for more than a few weeks I would start to lose my mind.

    There is a valid point to be made that modern society is making the line between the roles of men and women disappear, but I think that most people who make a conscious effort to maintain the barrier will be generally happier, as will their children. I think this is because we are hard wired sub-consciously to be this way, whether it makes as much cognitive sense as it used to or not. I can't explain why, but I find it very unattractive for women to take on overly masculine roles, even when they are capable (That said I don't always think less of them for it, just not a turn-on for me). Its intuition.

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