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    Quote Originally Posted by RedJack View Post
    Can you give me a description and example or two, please?
    Tall, lean, very dolichocephalic with protruding occiput, moderately sloping (and rather broad in comparison to the face) forehead. The cheekbones tend to be visible (but not prominent).
    Other characteristics include distinctly backward tilting ears, and from the inner to the outer part of the browridge there is a downward slope.


    Biologist Steve Jones is an approximation, although there is probably some Dinarid/Keltic influence as well. There's a picture of him here:

    https://www.ucl.ac.uk/biology/academ...ones/jones.htm

    His eyes, ears and cheekbones are fairly characteristic of the type.

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    Some pictures of Ulrika Jonsson





    Ulrikka Jonsson is a textbook Nordic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky Roma View Post
    Lundman, the author who coined the type, never gave an example. NAs survive as a myth, just like Anglo Saxons, a type with no example either.
    We've done this one already. Coon gave a whole gallery of examples of his Anglo-Saxon type, stop making stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelcynn Beorn View Post
    Some pictures of Ulrika Jonsson





    Ulrikka Jonsson is a textbook Nordic.
    Her nose shows Nordic, but cut against that is her large lower face/mouth. Hardly textbook Nordic, she has UP features.


    We've done this one already. Coon gave a whole gallery of examples of his Anglo-Saxon type, stop making stuff up.
    Interesting.

    "stop making stuff up"

    OK I'll bite.

    Please link to Coon's gallery of his Anglo-Saxon type. We'd all love to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEnglishNorman View Post
    Her nose shows Nordic, but cut against that is her large lower face/mouth. Hardly textbook Nordic, she has UP features.
    But then why do you and Amorsite classify f.e. Tilda Swinton as a perfect Keltic Nordic, even though her lower face and mouth is even larger than Jonsson's? :


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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEnglishNorman View Post
    If you think Ulrika Jonsson is Nordic, then to you, Sweden & England (more in a KN direction) will have Nordics as a common sight. She is likely pred. UP but suspect of Nordic admix.
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    Ulrika Jonsson is UP. Of course just because you say she is Nordic then she must be though, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by OneEnglishNorman View Post
    Her nose shows Nordic, but cut against that is her large lower face/mouth. Hardly textbook Nordic, she has UP features.
    So which is it, is she UP with 'suspect Nordic admix' or is she a Nordic with UP features?

    And of course, since you are using your opinion as the only evidence you need, then we need to explore what that is based on. Coon disagrees with you. McCulloch disagrees with you. Lundman disagrees with you. Gunther disagrees with you. So you aren't getting your ideas from any of the traditional sources for physical anthropological knowledge. So what are you basing it on?

    Quote Originally Posted by OneEnglishNorman View Post
    Please link to Coon's gallery of his Anglo-Saxon type. We'd all love to see it.
    You have seen it, it was posted several times over on the Anglo-Saxon thread which you were also posting on. As has Ricky Roma. Neither of you debated it at the time. But if you feel the need then it's here.

    http://www.snpa.nordish.net/troeplate33.htm
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    Weaving seems to be Cromagnoid (Dalofaelid-Borreby intermediate?) with Nordid - a more Cromagnoid version of the Sutherlands with the Sutherlands, especially Donald, being clearly more on the Nordid side.

    Ulrika Johnson seems to be a good example of a generalised Nordid which has all necessary attributes, but there are more typical ones around, since she MIGHT have (not sure because of those pictures) slight Cromagnid influences. Thats inside of the range of what all reasonable anthropologists would have considered Nordid in the narrower sense, but its at one side of the variation to put it that way, not in the most typical centre.

    Nordids can mainly deviate in two direction: The Cromagnid/Dalofaelid on the one side and the Mediterranid on the other, since those two are also the closest related. This means that the most typical Nordid is also most clearly to distinguish from both (primarily pigmentation against Mediterranid, form against Cromagnid) and has all typical adaptive attributes.
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    Thank you, Agrippa. Weaving does seem to have a Borreby shaped skull in that one pic, although his face is rather narrow for unmixed UP. Would like to see him with short hair to get a better look at it.
    Now, lads, if you wouldn't mind explaining to us why we should take your word over Agrippa's? :p

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