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    Examples of the Bell Beaker Type

    Here's some examples of Bell Beakers I've collected.
    Dominic Purcell has the identical skull to the drawing taken from a German anthro plate.





    Charles Darwin was described as a Bell Beaker type by Keith (1952) according to the Refuting Racial Myths website.

    "The Bronze Age invasions to which Coon refers were made up of Bell Beaker people, a Dinaric-Corded-Borreby blend from central and/or western Europe. It is "the Lower Rhine area . . . from whence any Beaker migrants into Britain are traditionally thought to have come" (Mays 2000). Arthur Keith (1915) says investigators "are almost unanimously of opinion that [the Bronze Age invaders of Britain had their origins] somewhere in that part of Europe which now lies within the bounds of the German Empire". Moreover, Keith states:

    The men who invaded Britain in the Bronze Age . . . were strong, tall and muscular; they had long faces, rugged features, prominent noses, overhanging eyebrow ridges; we have every reason to believe they were fair in hair and complexion.


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    Phil Collins seems to fit the description, as this profile pic shows.



    This last example I got from Biggles. He couldn't tell me where he got it.

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    No doubt about the picture of the skull but the living pictures don't look very Bell Beaker to me. Note the strong chin, long maxilla, narrow, high, prominent nose, long jaw and very round head in the skull. The pictures don't exactly conform to this.

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    Here's another angle of Phil Collins showing the globular shape as described in this old screenshot taken from Skadi.



    Steve Rackman is a former professional wrestler of English extraction. He appeared in Crocodile Dundee.





    Thanks for your comments, Doc. I reckon that Purcell has that exact peculiar occiput. Here's another angle of him to compare.

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    So these Bell Beakers were rather robust and CM - like Dinaricised Bruenns or something??? I'm confused now... I thought Bell Beakers were typically SkandoNordid in appearance, and very narrow/long faced??

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    The first skull shown comes from I. Schwidetzky's book and I scanned it, the Dinarid male is from Hungary if I remember correctly and the others dont fit at all.

    The Bell Beakers skulls I saw were all Dinaroid, but somewhat more Alpinoid and broader looking, still they would fit in most Dinarid populations of modern times. I'm speaking about Central European Bell Beakers though - the classic variants.
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    Yes, Bridie, afaik, the British Bell Beakers were big, robust people.

    Agrippa, for interest sake, how would you classify these examples?

    I think Patrick Stewart is another example.

    So the last pic in my first post is a Hungarian? A European Bell Beaker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedJack View Post
    Yes, Bridie, afaik, the British Bell Beakers were big, robust people.
    The classic Central European Bell Beakers were all quite Dinaroid, but, one should also note that, thats not true for all bearers of that culture it seems.

    Agrippa, for interest sake, how would you classify these examples?
    Dominic Purcell seems to be Cromagnid (Dalofälid) with Dinaroid (Dinarid? Keltic Nordic?) influences.

    Phil Collins probably Alpinoid with Dinaroid influences.

    The Hungarian is pred. Dinarid with leptodolichomorphic influences (Nordoid? Mediterranid?)

    I think Patrick Stewart is another example.
    I think he is Dalofaelid-Nordid (Keltic, so w. Dinaroid influences).

    So most of them have really Dinaroid influences, but they are not comparable to those pred. Dinaroid examples from Central Europe, rather "mixed derivatives" (with Cromagnid, Nordid and Mediterranid respectively).

    So the last pic in my first post is a Hungarian? A European Bell Beaker?
    A European Dinarid.

    Actually we dont know too much about the Bell Beakers, they came out of nothing and were socially dominant group for quite some time. Their rule was broken later and mixture followed, but they might have kept their centres and in later times in many regions the full scale Dinarisation began centuries or thousands of years later!

    We dont even know if there is a DIRECT genetic connection between f.e. the Bell Beakers of Central Europe in prehistoric times and those historic Dinarids of South Eastern Europe.

    Our knowledge is really limited on that, what we know for sure is that they have a lot in common in terms of racial type and specialisation.

    Steve Rackman is a former professional wrestler of English extraction. He appeared in Crocodile Dundee.
    He is a good example of a more robust Dinaroid. If he is really fully English, he might serve as an example for English "Bell Beaker survivors" in the sense of recapitulating their status.
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    AFAIK, Rackman is English and nothing else. Thanks for your comments, I could be completely wrong here. I will think about it some more.

    Guess I need this bloke in here;



    "An Englishman from Yorkshire; an excellent example of the Dinaric seafarers who invaded Britain in the Early Bronze Age. This man may be considered a type specimen of Bell Beaker brachycephal."

    from Coon's TROE

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    I worked with a guy with a British last name of Walsh who was a perfect Bell Beaker. Another guy I worked with who would fit this mold was actually a Jew from Belgium. Besides the round head, these people had eyes directly under the forehead and the eyes looked deeply set in. This was both due to the positioning of the eye sockets under the straight forehead and the nose which was high rooted but not coming out at a 45 degree angle but more straight up and down as in some Greek statues. The face was long on both these guys so with the round head, looked odd. The zygomatic arches were not so wide as in a Cro-Magnon (Bruenn). Both these guys had large muscular builds.

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    Patrick Stewart



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