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    Quote Originally Posted by Spydskjold View Post
    But taking the topic into regard, wouldn't you say that there's a whole lot of difference between a Middle Eastern shop or restaurant and a Middle Eastern religious sanctum?
    Yes, there is a difference. But to me, it's one thing that leads to another, so eventually they are equally as bad.

    You see, it is impossible for a muslim minority to arrive at a European country on day 1, and on day 2, out of the blue, demand the building of a mosque.
    They must 'establish' themselves first as a 'part' of the local community, and the way to do it is to open their shops, create their areas, spread their culture, send their children to European schools, and then ask for their own place of worship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boche View Post
    I'm against Mosques in Europe, hence they're not Part of European Culture un less they're built in Muslim Countries.
    Last time I checked Europe had her share of native muslims.

    A mosque does not really compare to a Christian church, as it is more of a community center and not exclusively a place of worship. Therefore every cellar can become a mosque. But then you cannot put a minaret on top of it. And that is the whole reasoning behind it: They don't want adequately sized places of worship, they want victory signs in the skyline, because the Turkish mind (and let's face it, the forces behind all these mosques in Europe is the Turkish state) is still a couple centuries behind the times.
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    i think mosques shouldnt be allowed in the European countries because they are not part of our culture or history they just are a blot on the landscape
    of our mother and fatherlands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skarpherdin View Post
    i think mosques shouldnt be allowed in the European countries because they are not part of our culture or history
    There's a problem with this line of argumentation:
    At one point in the past, it applied also for airports, railroad bridges, cathedrals...
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    they came as Europe Grew and expanded and adopted new viewseyes:

    but the mosque is not part of the culture
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    Well, perhaps the mosque is a part of a new growth, of a new expansion, of new views?
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    Quote Originally Posted by -jmw- View Post
    Well, perhaps the mosque is a part of a new growth, of a new expansion, of new views?
    Unfortunately you are right - what we are seeing in Europe is part of a "new growth, new expansion and new views", but tell me, what is the purpose of it? Are you saying that you are perfectly willing to sit back and let Europe be invaded by Muslims?

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    One should also consider the growing number of Europeans who convert to Islam. They definitely are part of European culture and as Europeans they also do not stick out negatively as strangers during negotiations over real estate deals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon View Post
    One should also consider the growing number of Europeans who convert to Islam. They definitely are part of European culture and as Europeans they also do not stick out negatively as strangers during negotiations over real estate deals.
    Your point being?

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    No but building more airports and giving them one-way tickets should be allowed in European countries.

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