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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger
    They don't even try to understand it, the best analogy would be Christianity, with many people who call themselves Christian, but haven't even read the Bible, or just dismiss parts of the Bible because it doesn't fit in their little self made world.
    That's a good analogy.
    That's what I said above 'ideology is opium for the people'. We live in a confused, fast-changing era. Most people today 'adopt' an ideology and follow it blindly, fanatically, religiously, in an attempt to 'define' themselves, to find their niche and fit into some construct, due to a lack of a more natural & realistic identity. You said that yourself:

    It's like when we are arguing about who is German, if you don't really know who is German, then you can't be a German nationalist, no matter of which flavor

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    No, I wouldn't change it.

    If I date someone I want her to accept me as I am and viceversa , otherwise is a relationship based in fake, and what's the point of having a faked relationship?, it isn't good for any of both :
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    I agree with Janus that changing your "ideology" because of love is pathetic. People who do that just never had any "ideology" at all in the first place. But so are most humans. Idealists are rare people. As for me, I cannot even imagine changing "ideology" because I simply wouldn't be myself anymore without it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blood Axis View Post
    Unfortunately for him: I kept rejecting him for months because of his miserable 'blame it all on capitalism" defeatist attitude, and as soon as he supposedly turned NS, I told him I grew out of it and do not consider myself as such anymore
    I think that accepting capitalism is the defeatist attitude because it's easier to give in and just do like the rest of the human morons (consumers) do. Unfortunately this swindle is ruining not only our own lives, but the whole planet.

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    Ideology today is the opium of the people, a form of scapegoating, and it is usually the most desperate people that embrace extreme ideologies fanatically, and also those who change their minds and jumb from one extreme to the other most frequently.
    Most people don't have an ideology, they pretend they do, but they often don't live by it. A so called "extreme ideology" is just orwellian speech to talk about anyone whose ideology denies the status quo.

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    So, someone who blames his misery on 'the State, the cops' or 'U.S.A. imperialism and capitalism' can easily shift to blaming his misery on the jews, the immigrants, the homosexuals, and so on.
    What a wonderful world we live in. I can see the world getting a better place each passing day
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    It's either my way or the highway. I have never been famous for compromising, being inconsistent, erratic or yearning to get public applause. So the Phleg you see is the Phleg you get - no upgrades, plug-ins, add-ons or revisions. I may be outdated, but I am reliable. And ideological Volkswagen, so to say.
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    on the general topic of changing ideology for someone - i would never do it. just because i don't think it's possible to just decide one day that you will agree with someone (even if you love that person)...but my opinions are not static and ideology evolves over time, so it could be that falling in love with someone will make me more likely to listen to what they have to say and i will realize that it makes sense and modify my views to incorporate it.

    on the specific topic of falling in love with someone of a different ethnicity/race, i'm not 100% against it. here it comes down to love for your culture vs love for your partner. imo love for partner will always win (if it's true love anw) so it's never a matter of choice...the thing is i don't see how you can fall in love with someone you don't approve of in the first place :

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    I don't have a specific ideology. However, I support preservation. So I wouldn't change my preservationist views for anyone. However, I would be open to changing my religion or politics (or, rather lack thereof), if it remained in the frame of preserving my heritage.

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    I wouldn't change my ideology for anyone. In fact my ex and I broke because of political differences. I think it's the best to have the same ideology as your partner.

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    My girlfriend and I are both proud white people with origins in England and Northwestern Europe. We both are Protestant, and have the same ideas about social issues and race. So, I wouldn't have to change my ideals, I got lucky.

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    I think that it is natural that within a relationship, especially a long-lasting one, people will approximate some views of theirs to those of their partner. You will have lengthy conversations and will get to see things from a slightly different angle, this can change your views on a topic.

    I have never really had that problem, relationships with girls from a different end of the spectrum were doomed pretty quickly, and for years I've made a point of dating but women with preservationist ideals or that are at least open towards learning about them, it just takes away one possible source of strife. I am often a little opinionated in a political debate, and set in my views, so trying to convert me to another point of view would be useless except on the minor issues.

    The ideological squabbling is going to be there even with a partner of a similar ideological background, just that you're going to agree on more. I went out for almost a year with a Nationalist & Odinist girl, yet we still had our discussions and our moments of being mad for the views of the other on some topic we considered all-important to ourselves. At the same time, there were moments when she'd argue my points without me having to do something, and those were special in their own way.

    I think this is one reason why ideologically similar partners are better, in such cases it feels like they're defending not but their own stance but defending you as well, and you love them all the more for it because it's a bonding thing to be walking the same path not just in life, but also in terms of your world view.
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    Choice of partner should be an extension of ideology imo.

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