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    Would You Change Your Ideology For Someone You Love?

    Do you think falling in love can change a person's ideology?
    I think it can. I've seen staunch WN folk who dropped their ideology in an instant when they met and fell in love with a Jewish girl. I've seen staunch German nationalists who dropped their ideology in an instant when they met and fell in love with an Anglo-American girl.

    Is it good to let love control folks' ideology? These folks seemed so convinced of their beliefs until they fell in love. Love totally changed these folks. They suddenly started making excuses that it wasn't against their ideology (eventhough beforehand they lectured anyone who would date out of their nationality/race).

    I'm a racialist and would never date out of my race. I'm an American nationalist and would never date someone who ain't American. What would you do if you fell in love with the wrong person? Would you change your ideology for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    Do you think falling in love can change a person's ideology?
    I think it can. I've seen staunch WN folk who dropped their ideology in an instant when they met and fell in love with a Jewish girl. I've seen staunch German nationalists who dropped their ideology in an instant when they met and fell in love with an Anglo-American girl.

    Is it good to let love control folks' ideology? These folks seemed so convinced of their beliefs until they fell in love. Love totally changed these folks. They suddenly started making excuses that it wasn't against their ideology (eventhough beforehand they lectured anyone who would date out of their nationality/race).

    I'm a racialist and would never date out of my race. I'm an American nationalist and would never date someone who ain't American. What would you do if you fell in love with the wrong person? Would you change your ideology for them?
    Maybe they weren't WN in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky Roma View Post
    Maybe they weren't WN in the first place.
    They were until they met the Jewish girl. Or at least they seemed convinced of it. They found the idea of dating a Jew repulsive.

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    I've seen it happening the other way round.

    There was a fanatic communist (aren't they all?) who had a crush on me and then started moving from NB to NS to 'impress' me, declaring himself even today as an 'awokened' NS who owes his 'enlightment' to me eyes:
    Unfortunately for him: I kept rejecting him for months because of his miserable 'blame it all on capitalism" defeatist attitude, and as soon as he supposedly turned NS, I told him I grew out of it and do not consider myself as such anymore

    And I also was in a relationship with an anarchist who is very interested in NS today, especially from the scientific as well as the religious/black sun/'occult' point of view. :p
    He also came to accept the preservationist issue and realized that globalization is not friend, but foe.

    However, I consider these as merely changes in "ideology", but not weltanschauung.

    If ideology were really weltanschauung , not only it would not change that easily, but it would prevent one from making such partner choices.

    Ideology today is the opium of the people, a form of scapegoating, and it is usually the most desperate people that embrace extreme ideologies fanatically, and also those who change their minds and jumb from one extreme to the other most frequently.

    So, someone who blames his misery on 'the State, the cops' or 'U.S.A. imperialism and capitalism' can easily shift to blaming his misery on the jews, the immigrants, the homosexuals, and so on.

    That's not a real change in ideology but a change of the point of view of a defeatist, scapegoating ideology that manifests itself in different ways (communism, Hollywood neo-nazism, anarchism, etc).

    On the other hand, people with a complete and healthy weltanschauung would not be that easily influenced and affected by such petty excuses. :p


    P.s. I read the question wrong & voted wrong :o
    It's actually "no idea"

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    Nope. In fact for the past several years I have only dated those with similar ideologies to my own.

    Though I have also seen people, particularly girls in the punk rock scene, switch back&forth from 'communist' to 'NS' and back again.
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    I haven't had to change it for my mother, my foster sister, or my best male friend. I plan to keep it for my unborn children because it's what's right for them. If it's fine by the three people I love most and who love me the most other than myself, and it is what is best for my children (the people I will love the most once they are realized), why would any man's "love" be enough to change my ideology?

    I don't date a man unless I think he might be a good father for my children. I don't think a man would be a good father for my children unless he had similar views.

    I don't need someone indoctrinating my children behind my back, while I'm trying to urge them to think freely.


    As far as "falling in love" and being "blinded" by it or whatever crap, I don't foresee that happening. Despite some fruity and abstract tendencies, I am a very concrete and logical person. I really have trouble being attracted to men who believe differently than I do. Even some slight differences in major areas are enough to put a bitter taste in my mouth.
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    I never have but love can change your worldview quite a bit.
    For me having children changed my worldview and lifestyle a lot more than being in love.
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    No, I would never. In fact, I've broken up with a boyfriend of mine because a life with him would have never been satisfactory by my standards, and I've had to refuse men because they were not racially similar to me. I can't and won't allow myself ever again to fall in love and have a relationship with the wrong person. It's a waste of time and emotions that could be better spent on a racially-acceptable individual. If I have to wait years for him to come along, so be it. I won't risk having children even more mixed than I am.

    The trouble is explaining to men (especially very handsome and charming ones) why I am not interested. I've been called a racist and a nazi more than once. Few seem to understand the most I want is to preserve my own heritage. To me, it is a perfectly natural thing to want. Giving up my ideology would be like giving up a piece of my very soul. It is the driving force behind my thoughts and actions. I would be living a life of torment without it, and it is worth far more than any love a man can give.

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    Those,who change their ideology for a mating partner, are nothing but pathetic and were probably never really convinced of it at all. Maybe they just searched for a peer group and found it in NS/WN/whatever so they dropped it at the moment they wanted to impress somebody of the opposite gender.

    Anyways, I do not love and even if I did I would never change my ideology for that. There are enough people who'd love you even with your ideology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    They were until they met the Jewish girl.
    I doubt, they might have been even quite fanatic in their own regard, but the true problem always is, that many don't even understand the ideology they are actually trying to follow.
    I see this every day, people who call themselves NS and are babbling of eternal peace for the world or similar crap. They don't even try to understand it, the best analogy would be Christianity, with many people who call themselves Christian, but haven't even read the Bible, or just dismiss parts of the Bible because it doesn't fit in their little self made world.

    It's like when we are arguing about who is German, if you don't really know who is German, then you can't be a German nationalist, no matter of which flavor

    They mabey shouted propaganda slogans, but with most of these guys it is always pretty obvious that they have no own thoughts about these subjects, and they drop like flies, if something else pleases their individualistic/hedonistic needs.
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