View Poll Results: Which former German territories do your ancestors hail from?

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  • East Prussia

    22 23.91%
  • West Prussia

    27 29.35%
  • Pomerania

    11 11.96%
  • Silesia

    18 19.57%
  • Memelland

    2 2.17%
  • Sudetenland

    8 8.70%
  • South Tyrol

    4 4.35%
  • Alsace-Lorraine

    13 14.13%
  • Eupen-Malmedy

    0 0%
  • Lower Styria

    1 1.09%
  • Carinthia

    1 1.09%
  • Schleswig

    6 6.52%
  • Other

    14 15.22%
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    I localised the archive of Standesamt Gottesberg for years 1874-1908. It's here, in Breslau State Archive:

    Standesamt Gottesberg/Urząd Stanu Cywilnego w Boguszowie


    Breslau State Archive is really nice place to visit, so if some day you'll be visiting Schlesien...

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    Kiehl

    My GG Grandfather emigrated from Oppeln in Silesia in to Australia in 1850 where he ran a butcher's business. I see from surname maps that his family name, 'Kiehl' persists in the Opole area today.
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    I see from surname maps that his family name, 'Kiehl' persists in the Opole area today
    Indeed We welcome another Silesian on Skadi!!!

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    A lot of Australians of German descent would have had forebears from East and West Prussia and other German territories east of the Oder-Neisse line. Most German families that emigrated to Australia in the 19th century were from East and West Prussia, other Prussian-ruled German states, or German states in northern Germany that were increasingly under Prussian hegemony.
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    My most recent ancestor whose family was from what was once part of Germany, was Frisian and derived from the Prince Bishopric of Muenster. If so considered, the County of Holland was also part of the Kingdom of Germany and that's where else my kin on the same side of the family came from. Both roots have been and are part of the Netherlands since Burgundy led them into Habsburg hands and revolt by the Nassaus. When I feel my Dutchness, I've typically glorified the Republic rather than either the preceding place in the German realm, Burgundy or the subsequent Orangist monarchy. It's hard to invoke Friesland when Frankish is the tongue of the state, but both streams of history have shaped society, such as Anabaptist vs Reformed Protestantism. If Dutch is Deutsch, then I wonder how language policy would be pursued if BeNeLux were to be returned to Germany. What kind of autonomy would prevail? I hold no objection to a reconstituted Kingdom of Germany without 'Roman' trappings. That means no Bohemia, Lombardy or Burgundy, but I wouldn't mind any of them going about things similarly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    My most recent ancestor whose family was from what was once part of Germany, was Frisian and derived from the Prince Bishopric of Muenster. If so considered, the County of Holland was also part of the Kingdom of Germany and that's where else my kin on the same side of the family came from. Both roots have been and are part of the Netherlands since Burgundy led them into Habsburg hands and revolt by the Nassaus. When I feel my Dutchness, I've typically glorified the Republic rather than either the preceding place in the German realm, Burgundy or the subsequent Orangist monarchy. It's hard to invoke Friesland when Frankish is the tongue of the state, but both streams of history have shaped society, such as Anabaptist vs Reformed Protestantism. If Dutch is Deutsch, then I wonder how language policy would be pursued if BeNeLux were to be returned to Germany. What kind of autonomy would prevail? I hold no objection to a reconstituted Kingdom of Germany without 'Roman' trappings. That means no Bohemia, Lombardy or Burgundy, but I wouldn't mind any of them going about things similarly.
    One thing bugging me is the idea that the area so far as Münster is inland from the Wadden should be Frisian and not Saxon, seeing how nobody spoke Frisian there either in the time when my Mennonite ancestors lived or now. Since the Kingdom of Germany map shows Münster part of Saxony, clustering with the other Prince Bishoprics and this is decidedly not a Frisian establishment, I think it better to hold them in the area as Saxons of Westphalia. It's not like Frisians were the only Anabaptists or participants in the Münster Rebellion. I've read on Skadi and elsewhere that there were or are Saxons in the present Netherlands and that must be the case for this area, being that the very small region of 'Fryslân' they're from was not part of the Burgundian lands under Utrecht. The family tree says this line was from Lauterbach near Fulda in Hesse before, so Franks rather than Saxons.


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    Both grandfather are from germany and emigrated into Lorraine, one grand mother is from poland and the other is from South Tyrol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    One thing bugging me is the idea that the area so far as Münster is inland from the Wadden should be Frisian and not Saxon, seeing how nobody spoke Frisian there either in the time when my Mennonite ancestors lived or now. Since the Kingdom of Germany map shows Münster part of Saxony, clustering with the other Prince Bishoprics and this is decidedly not a Frisian establishment, I think it better to hold them in the area as Saxons of Westphalia. It's not like Frisians were the only Anabaptists or participants in the Münster Rebellion. I've read on Skadi and elsewhere that there were or are Saxons in the present Netherlands and that must be the case for this area, being that the very small region of 'Fryslân' they're from was not part of the Burgundian lands under Utrecht. The family tree says this line was from Lauterbach near Fulda in Hesse before, so Franks rather than Saxons.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chur..._(New_Dunkers)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzenau_Brethren

    Finally figured it out. Mom's mother belonged to the New Dunker Church of God, a branch of the Schwarzenau Brethren. The article summary shows the move from Schriesheim to Surhuisterveen, before Germantown. All of this is the same as where my German ancestors lived. Whereas my Dutch side was in New Amsterdam and joined our majority English population when it became New York under the Stuarts, my German side went to Hanoverian Pennsylvania--the same as most Anglo-Americans. Although I have no non-British ancestors from outside America since Independence, those connections are the closest generationally to me, as recently in my family tree, to anywhere non-British. It would make things easier for me to make sense of my family tree if the old Kingdom of Germany were to reunite Dutch and Deutsche in one Teutonic land.

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