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Thread: Races or Subraces?

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    Question Races or Subraces?

    Many times I've seen folks here refer to "the Nordic race", "the Dinaric race" and so on. Now my question is are these (Nordic, Dinaric, Alpinid, Baltic etc.) races or subraces? If they are races, then what would the white (Europid) race be categorized as? Lastly, if they are races would for example a Nordic marrying a Mediterranean be miscegenation? What do you make of Goebbels and his wife Magda for example, phenotypically quite different?


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    A race is a specialization of a species. The origin of (as an example) Nordids and Faelids are different, one evolved out of the Aurignacian race and the other out of the Cro-Magnon race, they did not evolve from the same root race, if they did they were sub-races of that root race.
    However, if you go just far enough back in time, you will find such a race we all evolved from (if you believe in evolution that is ), but scientifically we just evolved into new races, and it all stops making sense, because that race was certainly not something we would declare as "white" (or yellow or black) in our current terms. So strictly scientifically speaking, the European races are not sub-races of a mystic common "white race", but evolved from different specializations already, since this happened in a similar environment, they share similar traits, and it makes sense to group them, but these are no actual biological races anymore, so there is no white race in the strict sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    A race is a specialization of a species. The origin of (as an example) Nordids and Faelids are different, one evolved out of the Aurignacian race and the other out of the Cro-Magnon race, they did not evolve from the same root race, if they did they were sub-races of that root race.
    However, if you go just far enough back in time, you will find such a race we all evolved from (if you believe in evolution that is ), but scientifically we just evolved into new races, and it all stops making sense, because that race was certainly not something we would declare as "white" (or yellow or black) in our current terms. So strictly scientifically speaking, the European races are not sub-races of a mystic common "white race", but evolved from different specializations already, since this happened in a similar environment, they share similar traits, and it makes sense to group them, but these are no actual biological races anymore, so there is no white race in the strict sense.
    So then would two of these races breeding be called miscegenation?:p Like those of us who are subracially impure, are we "racially mixed"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    So then would two of these races breeding be called miscegenation?:p Like those of us who are subracially impure, are we "racially mixed"?
    Of course, but not every mix is bad. Specifically, that the races we have mixed with, already were adopted to a similar environment, just differently, this even may have increased our survival potential, this would be different if we mixed with types who evolved in a very different environment, like e.g. Sub-Saharan Africa
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