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    Question Are Rammstein 'NS / Racist ?

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    Post Re: are Rammstein ''neo-nazi/racists''?

    I was on a Rammstein site and they had no problem with Homos.

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    ''This painting is an excellent example of the common theme of athletic prowess in Nazi artworks. It is particularly effective in conveying a sense of motion because of the lines of rowers acting like frames of movie film as the eye passes over them. Certainly the theme and technique of this painting are excellent, and there's certainly nothing especially overtly Nazi-oriented about the portrayal (no swastikas and so on), but given the era in which it was created, the themes of health, athletic prowess, collective action, and competition are unmistakably intended to promulgate this view of German society and what kind of world the Nazis wanted to be thought of as creating.

    It is unfortunate that today so many artists and others have taken home the wrong lesson from such works. Of course the end toward which they aggitated was evil, but must we reject the idea of meaningful art promoting true virtues (such as health, success, and strength in this case) on the grounds that some artists in some eras have used their power to portray good ideals in association with evil political movements? I think not, and in fact, by abandoning the idea that art can portray good, meaningful, and true notions, such people leave the door open to some evil ideology to align itself with the virtue art still can express. ''



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    Post Re: are Rammstein ''neo-nazi/racists''?

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Nationalist
    I was on a Rammstein site and they had no problem with Homos.

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    Post Re: are Rammstein ''neo-nazi/racists''?

    They are White and they are Germans and they play cool music there is no point in trying to take it any further than that.

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    Post Re: are Rammstein ''neo-nazi/racists''?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimr
    They are White and they are Germans and they play cool music there is no point in trying to take it any further than that.
    That is a very good statement! In fact, there is no need from them to be nazi or racist, as long that do not degenerate into some despicable thing or underground position socially speaking. They are white, germans playing good music... fair enough!

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    Post Re: are Rammstein ''neo-nazi/racists''?

    if you count playing with dildos on stage and playing with fire constantly as being neo-nazi/racist, then yes, they are
    "People demand freedom of speech as compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use" - Soren Kierkegaard

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    Post Re: are Rammstein ''neo-nazi/racists''?

    Quote Originally Posted by Euclides
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    And he was murdered after Hitler was in power.

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    Post Re: are Rammstein ''neo-nazi/racists''?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse
    And he was murdered after Hitler was in power.
    He was not "murdered" but executed and I believe that it was Hitler that personally performed the arrest.
    He was executed not for homosexuality,which was common amongst the SA but treason.

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    Post Re: are Rammstein ''neo-nazi/racists''?

    Quote Originally Posted by AryanKrieger
    He was not "murdered" but executed and I believe that it was Hitler that personally performed the arrest.
    He was executed not for homosexuality,which was common amongst the SA but treason.
    And this matters because...

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