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    Question How Much Open Source Software are you Using?

    by Alex Birch on Fri, 11/23/2007 - Corrupt.org

    [..] Open source was originally the idea that knowledge about software programming should be shared within a community, independent of financial reward, to compete with the costly corporate software out on the market. So far, really smart. What's happened over these last years is that the open source community has slowly transformed into a cult phenomenon that dogmatically divides software up into two binary categories: open source (good) and closed source (evil).

    This a thoroughly stupid debate because what's being discussed is method and not product. Method in itself does not dictate whether the product is good or bad. An example of this open source software: while programs such as the FLAC encoder and the GIMP photoshop are brilliant, OpenOffice work system and Firefox browser are not. Same goes for corporate software: RealPlayer is a bloody joke and don't get me started with troubleshooting the ever-helpful "Blue Screen Of Death" (BSOD) on Windows XP!

    The truth is that there are both white and black sheep in the corporate and open source heaven. Most people who blindly trust corporate software are the same nitwits who believe that money is the only motivating factor that's needed to create functional products. Similarly it's hilarious to hear the open source fanatics religiously exclaim how fantastic their home made pile of junk is - "hey, it's free!"

    While I find that most corporate software today is pretty neat, I also realize that much of it is overpriced and seem to spy on every move you do on the Internet. Open source software isn't much better; you run into a system error and you're forced to spend the whole day googling forums after keywords related to your mysterious problem: "crash," "horse porn," "memory leak," "code line #45."

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    I wonder if this article was produced and published for the corporate hogs like Micro$oft. They want your money, and they're scared of the success of open source software. I’ll agree that there might be some better closed source programs, but that’s hardly ever the case for most occasions.

    Nearly every application I use is open source. Closed source is over bloated and has horrible security issues made fancy with ugly GUIs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eiríkr View Post
    I wonder if this article was produced and published for the corporate hogs like Micro$oft. They want your money, and they're scared of the success of open source software. I’ll agree that there might be some better closed source programs, but that’s hardly ever the case for most occasions.

    Nearly every application I use is open source. Closed source is over bloated and has horrible security issues made fancy with ugly GUIs.
    I've always found pro-Linux people to just be going along with what is "cool" in technology. Go to any forum or convention and they all love spurting their anti-Microsoft, pro-Linux crap and most don't even know why they like Linux. Hell, most don't even use it.

    Open Source is the same. I've seen a trend of people who are going spaz over open source when all their programs are closed source, they don't know how to make the most of open source, and or modify those applications.

    To me, it cames down to not caring. I use any program that is good which includes the so widely dreaded Vista.
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    What's so bad about firefox?
    I mean, compared to IE its great. Much faster and less ugly (well with themes).
    Compared to Opera there is no advert in the corner, although I never cared about the advert, some people do.
    I am not a computer person, what other browsers are there? Does Netscape still exist?

    Open office did suck though, I tried it and oh god the bugs. Good ol' Microsoft Office for me. Used to have a Lotus package before XP but couldn't be bothered to buy one when MSOffice came free with my laptop computer and works fine, although, isn't that the kind of behavior that the antitrust suit against microsoft was about XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    I use any program that I consider good which includes the so widely dreaded Vista.
    I corrected your sentence.

    Software development is a philosophy in itself, all software sucks, there is just software that sucks less, open source is no guarantee to suck less, but it is almost a prerequisite for it.

    The principle is that all knowledge should be available for everyone within our group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    I've always found pro-Linux people to just be going along with what is "cool" in technology. Go to any forum or convention and they all love spurting their anti-Microsoft, pro-Linux crap and most don't even know why they like Linux. Hell, most don't even use it.
    true

    Open Source is the same. I've seen a trend of people who are going spaz over open source when all their programs are closed source, they don't know how to make the most of open source, and or modify those applications.
    true

    I’m a minimalist. I prefer the most performance, advance customization, and security with the least amount of clutter as possible. Open source usually offers that for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by sophia View Post
    What's so bad about firefox?
    I mean, compared to IE its great. Much faster and less ugly (well with themes).
    Nothing except there is better alternatives for most people. Firefox is a bit bloated, and most don’t even take full advantage of it. In terms of sheer raw speed, Opera is the fastest in regards to mainstream browsers, but there are exceptions. Firefox is not significantly faster than IE 7 as many people claim. As for slowness, it’s usually one’s settings or lack of maintenance that are causing the problems. There are a lot of factors such as script speed, cache handling, startup, and rendering CSS. OS and browser settings play a role. For the zealot Mac users, Safari or Opera would be best. Firefox is definitely the most customizable with the most features which is the reason I use it. Surfing without my many extensions isn’t as gratifying.

    Compared to Opera there is no advert in the corner, although I never cared about the advert, some people do.
    I find ads extremely annoying along with damn flash animations that cause CPU usage spikes. : I never see them anymore due to blocking. Your wording is ambiguous, but you can block ads with Opera.

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    I like Firefox, I found Opera to be slower, and IE gets full of annoying toolbars and crap.

    Linux I found to be crappy, XP works well for me most of the time, I'll take an occasional crash in return for a system which is all around less aggravating to use. Most of the programs which run on Linux (open office, Gaim, and whatever shitty media player they have) are vastly inferior to their windows counterparts (MS Office, Trillian, and Winamp) which have free versions anyways.

    The main advantage the Linux fans like to cite is that their OS uses less PC resources, but that doesn't matter unless you have a really old/outdated PC, or if you play games, but most games don't run on Linux anyways so that is a moot point. The other advantage Mac and Linux claim is that most viruses don't work on them, this is only because so few people use them that virus makers don't bother making viruses for them. If more people used Mac and Linux, more people would make viruses which work on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    Linux I found to be crappy, XP works well for me most of the time, I'll take an occasional crash in return for a system which is all around less aggravating to use.
    Now you are comparing the product, not the method, the questions is, would windows have to be different if it were open sourced? The answer is, it wouldn't.
    The idea is that windows should release their source code, not to abolish a product.

    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    (MS Office, Trillian, and Winamp) which have free versions anyways.
    They are free of charge, but I am not allowed to alter my bought product, this would be like some guy selling me a wooden chair, and trying to do everything to stop me altering it to my needs, because I happen to be a cabinetmaker.
    And being open-source does in no way indicate that it has to be free of charge.

    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    The main advantage the Linux fans like to cite is that their OS uses less PC resources, but that doesn't matter unless you have a really old/outdated PC, or if you play games, but most games don't run on Linux anyways so that is a moot point.
    Well, Linux can be made to use less system resources, but it does not have to do so
    The main advantage of Linux is customization.

    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    The other advantage Mac and Linux claim is that most viruses don't work on them, this is only because so few people use them that virus makers don't bother making viruses for them. If more people used Mac and Linux, more people would make viruses which work on them.
    This is part of the truth, but not "only" because of this. The whole system has a different security design, which gives it a tough standard security for every user, not that Windows could not be as secure as Linux, or that Linux could not be as unsafe as Windows, but the effort to put into Windows to make it that secure is notable higher.
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    Well Personally I use both Open Source and Closed Source.
    As far as browsers I use Exclusively Fire Fox on both my Windows Machine and My Linux Machine.

    And contrary to popular opinion you do not have to be a programmer to use Linux, because these days it is very user friendly, and has many applications that make it easy to use like the Adept Utility that automatically loads updates.

    In my Opinion Linux is better for a general use Surfing Computer, and Windows is better for running Special use programs, in my case graphics programs like Poser, Bryce, and Adobe Premiere, and various Games.

    Although I do run some, Windows Programs in Linux under the WINE utility and will probably do so more in the future, assuming Windows does not get rid of the Bloatware in Vista.

    The Main Problem with Windows is that there are no Commercial Alternatives and MS in the last few years has been characterized by a lack of innovation.

    So at this point in Time, Windows and Linux are at about the same level of Quality.

    Also If you are looking for a great, very easy to use 3D Modeler then Wings 3D is great, of course it lacks some of the Features that more Commercial Modelers have.

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    Another problem of closed software, is that you have to trust your seller to a far greater extent.
    Recently we have quite a debate about an officially made trojan to be used in the "war on terror" (c), they even think about using "wlan-catcher", due to WAP encryption this is not really practical, unless they require a backdoor implemented in the router through a firmware update.
    (They already did so with a closed-sourced anonymity-service)
    So better use an open-source alternative for your router's frimware like www.dd-wrt.com and you are on the safe side.
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