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    Triumph of the Will

    I just watched the propaganda movie and was surprised to watch it without anyone narrating and speaking except Party officials.

    I've always had a fetish for old movies and this was particularly interesting considering I have been interested in how the German people perceived Hitler and his associates and I thought propaganda was a good way to find that out.

    Anyway, I was just wondering whether other people have seen it and what their thoughts were.
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    Yeah, well. It is by common assumption a masterpiece of filming art and still taught as a course in directing studies (at least in Greece).

    Riefenstahl is considered by many (also non-political) acquaintances of mine to be one of the most important directing pioneers of the 20th century. Noone denies the artfulness and strenght of her images as well as the ingeniousness of her techniques.
    But in order to appreciate her poetic directing skills in their full glory, I suggest you watch the first minutes of Olympia (the Torch run) and her movie Das Blaue Licht

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    I have never watched Triumph of the Will, though I plan to. My only encounter with Leni Riefenstahl has been the Rammstein video for their song "Stripped". That video is intense. If Riefenstahl's other films evoke the same emotion as the clips from that video did I would say she is incredibly talented.

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    Leni Riefenstahl was indeed one of the directing pioneers of the 20th Century.
    She was still popular after World War 2 in Germany as Director.

    She was also a great photograph during the 3.Reich and also after the 3.Reich. I can recommend every Photo-Book of her.

    I might start a Gallery Thread for her with alot of her Photographs.

    Anyway, here a Photo of her with Hitler and Göbbels:



    And here a post-war one while she was in Africa to photograph different African Tribes:






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    I've seen Triumph of the Will numerous times, and also Victory of Faith which runs along similar lines. That Rammstein music vid is awesome. Never come across a full version of Olympia, or even heard of The Blue Light, I'll try to find a copy of that movie

    The castle shown in the opening part of Triumph of the Will is now a youth hostel which you can stay in if you ever visit Nuremberg.
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    I have only seen grainly videos of Triumph of the Will. Even in that poor format it was a wonderly artful film. Boche is correct about her being one of films masterminds in the last century. As much as I dislike the Third Reich only the artisticly blind or hypocritical can deny the beauty in her films.

    Her African photos are highly recomended as well. I would like to see the Blue Light. I have read reviews and seen a few stills but that is all.
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    It is an amazing film - heavily financed by the new ministry. It is certainly quite well known in England .... I recall years ago seeing it in a jewish owned cinema - and was instantly won over! = I guess that's the point of it ..... a wonderful festival of marches and promises, parades and pageants. None of the nasty stuff which came much later and features heavily in most TV "presentations" these days --- they too, of course, have their ministries!!

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    My father got one of the best "cuts" per se of the film, so the quality of the one I watched was quite high. I liked it.
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    I just downloaded quite a lot of the propaganda films of the Third Reich from here if anyone's interested:

    http://www.nazi.org.uk/video.htm

    The quality may be a little bad for some and not all have English subtitles which may be a problem for those without basic German. They don't speak all that much and if you know the key words you can understand, easily, what they're saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula
    Never come across a full version of Olympia, or even heard of The Blue Light, I'll try to find a copy of that movie
    You really should, as it's an excellent film. I would also recommend her other film 'Tiefland' (1954) that she made after the Third Reich.

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