View Poll Results: German Flag: Which is Your Favorite?

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  • Black-Red-Gold

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    33 42.31%
  • German Fraternity

    3 3.85%
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Thread: The German Flag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    I don't believe you are German so I believe it is up to the Germans to determine what their flag represents.
    The Dutch/Flämen are German, and they used to be officially German a long time.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    That is a subjective opinion.
    Only if you have no taste. As a designer, I find that flag so ugly it almost makes my skin crawl.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    Yes, I don't believe I have said otherwise.
    ... but wasn't the point of this thread to find a design for a flag to represent all Germanic countries? Or did I get that wrong?

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    I don't believe you are German so I believe it is up to the Germans to determine what their flag represents.
    Radical German nationalists usually use Second Reich flags because of the treasonous nature of the Weimar flag and Third Reich flags being illegal. It's from them that I know this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    The Dutch/Flämen are German, and they used to be officially German a long time.
    We are Lower-Germans, although we have been seperated for so long it doesn't really feel like we're the same people. Distinct historical timelines and a different official language are to blame for that.

    Still, I feel a great deal of sympathy for my Higher-German comrades as well as a strong connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IlluSionSxxx View Post
    ... but wasn't the point of this thread to find a design for a flag to represent all Germanic countries? Or did I get that wrong?
    I offered a flag to represent multiple Germanic countries, but yes, not all. I don't believe I said it should represent all of them.
    Radical German nationalists usually use Second Reich flags because of the treasonous nature of the Weimar flag and Third Reich flags being illegal. It's from them that I know this.
    So now it is radical? I believe before you only mentioned "nationalists". I know German nationalists too who use the black-red-gold flag including on this forum. So please stop calling it the "Weimar flag", it has been pointed out to you that it is not just a Weimar flag, I believe it has other meanings and certainly not treasonous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    So now it is radical? I believe before you only mentioned "nationalists".
    I usually don't consider "democratic" nationalists to be real nationalists, so that's why I didn't nuance

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    So please stop calling it the "Weimar flag", it has been pointed out to you that it is not just a Weimar flag, I believe it has other meanings and certainly not treasonous.
    The flag is known first and foremost as the flag of the Weimar Republic and the DDR bastard state. Both are treasonous states, which makes the flag a treasonous flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IlluSionSxxx View Post
    I usually don't consider "democratic" nationalists to be real nationalists, so that's why I didn't nuance
    Then I believe your definition of nationalism doesn't correspond with reality.
    The flag is known first and foremost as the flag of the Weimar Republic and the DDR bastard state. Both are treasonous states, which makes the flag a treasonous flag.
    Sorry but that argument holds as much water as telling the Indians they can't use their sacred symbol, the swastika because it was abused and tainted by NS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    How about this flag for the German speaking countries?



    D-A-CH-flag, an unofficial flag comprising flags of the three dominant states in the German Sprachraum.
    Sorry, but that would be as absurd as if you would put the irish, german, english, scottish, spanish and french flag together as one flag and propose it as the Flag for the USA.

    The Swiss have their own flag, the austrians have their own flag and we germans have our flag.

    There is nothing which will abominate the german flag.


    For the topic:

    The Black, White Red Flag also represents the german Kaiserreich and partly even the 3.Reich because it was used in different times.

    I use it because it represents Germany during it's more stronger times.

    But i'm not against the Black, Red, Yellow One either, since it's also historical.




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    How about the flag of the Holy Roman Empire?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boche View Post
    Sorry, but that would be as absurd as if you would put the irish, german, english, scottish, spanish and french flag together as one flag and propose it as the Flag for the USA.

    The Swiss have their own flag, the austrians have their own flag and we germans have our flag.

    There is nothing which will abominate the german flag.
    Boche, the Austrians and Swiss are German. There is no comparison with the nationalities you listed. Do you deny your own kin?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    Boche, the Austrians and Swiss are German. There is no comparison with the nationalities you listed.
    All he's saying, is that you don't create a flag of one particular ethno-cultural group by patching up the flags of different ethno-cultural sub-groups of that particular group. He was probably using the US as an example because he figured that you (being an American) might understand his point better in case he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    Boche, the Austrians and Swiss are German. There is no comparison with the nationalities you listed. Do you deny your own kin?
    Stop twisting the words i said. It's about the flag! Not the kin. What the Flag resembles.

    Would the flag look good if every americans nationality would be shown in it? No Because there are different cultures in your country.

    We germans have our National Emblems and Colours, why should we mix them together and delete the german eagle for the swiss cross? That simply doesn't fit.

    If there would be a Flag of "all" German Countries, then it would be a Flag of one of the German Reichs, which would be in all matters Black, White and Red.


    I'm fine with the animated Flag now at Skadi, because it doesn't mix the Flags, which is important.




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