View Poll Results: Should smoking be banned in public places?

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  • Yes, smoking should be banned in all public places.

    31 34.07%
  • Yes, smoking should be banned in official buildings but not bars/restaurants etc.

    11 12.09%
  • No, but venues which allow smoking should have designated smoking areas

    13 14.29%
  • No, smoking should be allowed without, or with few obvious restrictions

    3 3.30%
  • No, it should be up to the owner/operator of the building.

    28 30.77%
  • Why should I care, I don't frequent public places!

    0 0%
  • Other opinion, which will be elaborated in the 78-odd paragraphs to follow

    5 5.49%
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    Tobacco products should be proscribed entirely; they carry no benefit, beyond government tax revenue collected at the cost of lives. Banning the aforementioned in public areas is the very least that can be done.

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    Usually if one is in an area without people (such as the aforementioned hill) it wouldn't really matter. I don't see exactly how a ban can be enforced sometimes.
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    Austria has a hysterical attitude towards smoking. You see non-smoking signs everywhere! I understand that ex-smokers and non-smokers don't like the smell and everything, they don't want to be forced to inhale it. But we smokers don't want to be forced either. Banning smoking is forcing us to let go of our habit. I only smoke occasionally anyway, but I don't like the state nannying my life. No, I don't think smoking should be banned in most places. It shouldn't be allowed in hospitals, I certainly agree with that. Other buildings like governmental facilities, schools & universities, malls, restaurants, pubs, should have smoking and non-smoking areas designated. The same with public transport like trains, subway, trams, etc. Taxies should allow smoking since they transport a client at a time. Not allowing smoking in taxies because it bothers the driver is as justified as not allowing dogs, alcohol or other things which offend Muslims. The taxi driver is a caterer, so if he wants to make money he should put up with the habits of his clients.
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    yes ban it everywhere! Infact outlaw smoking!

    It amazes me why people continue to pay completely over inflated prices to kill themselfs!

    Well if they want to do this then it must not effect other people! I should not have to choose another restraunt to eat at because of fear of dieing if I go into a smoking restraunt! Thats not freedom of choice thats ludacris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pino View Post
    yes ban it everywhere! Infact outlaw smoking!

    It amazes me why people continue to pay completely over inflated prices to kill themselfs!

    Well if they want to do this then it must not effect other people! I should not have to choose another restraunt to eat at because of fear of dieing if I go into a smoking restraunt! Thats not freedom of choice thats ludacris.
    Outlaw colestrol, alcohol, guns, cars, fire, etc. They kill, you know.

    Life is like that, sometimes you have to put up with stuff you don't like and you can't ban it all. I should not have to put up with idiocy, but sometimes, that's inevitable.

    I guess you can figure out what my position is already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pino View Post
    yes ban it everywhere! Infact outlaw smoking!

    It amazes me why people continue to pay completely over inflated prices to kill themselfs!

    Well if they want to do this then it must not effect other people! I should not have to choose another restraunt to eat at because of fear of dieing if I go into a smoking restraunt! Thats not freedom of choice thats.
    Nobody is requiring you to go into a smoking restaurant, whereas you are proposing that every smoker should be forced to always enter non-smoking areas. The rule least burdensome to the populace in general is to allow both smoking and non-smoking locations and let people enter the one of their choosing.
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    Well.. I'm not sure what I feel. As a smoker I guess I'd like to light up my cigarette after eating dinner at a restaurant, but as we've had this ban for a while I've gotten used to going outside and I have no problems doing that (other than during winter time.. freezing cold, snow or rain and no form of shelter provided).

    I don't like that smoking is banned from airports though. Seeing as I work at one I have to tell a billion people every day that, yes - this is a non-smoking airport and no, there is no doors I can secretly open so that they can have 5 mins outside with their cigarette. Now, that is usually on quiet days. When there are 3, 4, 5 or 6 hours delay on flights I really feel bad for the smokers, and I wonder why they can't provide for a designated area, capsule it in if you'd like, no one else needs to smell a thing, but for my safety, let them have a cigarette before they turn to alcohol and starts getting really nasty.

    There was a discussion about banning all smoking downtown where I live, they didn't even mention having designated smoking areas, but luckily it got voted down. There's where I draw the line. The air is for everyone.. and If I choose to pollute my share of it with either my car or my cigarette it's my choice. (And I do both )
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    I support heavy taxation on cigarettes, but on the issue of smoking bans I'm split. I enjoy not having to be in a smoke filled environment if I am at a restaurant or in a nightclub, which would be unthinkable if there wasn't a ban since all it takes is a few smokers to ensure a constant smell of tobacco, but at the same time I don't think it is up to the government to ban legal products from being used on private property which is what bars, restaurants and nightclubs constitutes in the end, if you want to ban it from being used on private property you should ban the product itself first (I would prefer to see a continued raising of the tax on cigarettes instead in an attempt to channel tobacco users over to snus, a product which should instead see a tax cut).

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    All those who are annoyed about smoking being banned to higher and higher extents in all convenient smokers' places should consider, investing in a so-called "electrical cigarette".

    http://www.esmoker.de/

    Happy customer who can now "smoke" in the airport, the bakery and those pubs that forbid it reporting here. The only issue is that the company produces them outwith Germany to be cost-effective ... but the idea is great.

    Austria has a hysterical attitude towards smoking. You see non-smoking signs everywhere!
    Yes, alas, in order to be in line with the rest of the EU, the best regulation regarding smoking/non-smoking was ditched the other day. Quite a shame.
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    Although I'm not a capitalist, the market clears this problem perfectly. If the owner wants to permit smoking he will be rewarded or punished by the accordingly to demand to his establishment. So, just like I decide if there can be smoking in my house, the owner can decide if there's smoking allowed in his pub or establishment. It's another case in real public places of course (i.e common property), that then up to the public.

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