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  • The Dutch are Low German

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Thread: Are the Dutch Low German or Are the Low Germans Dutch? / Should the Netherlands Join Germany?

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    Post Re : Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    Quote Originally Posted by agnar
    When an nation is occupied, it doesnt necesarry mean mass-mixing.
    I agree. I think that when the invaders are too differents and the local population very hostile, it doesn't happen so easily (without MTV sure...)

    Quote Originally Posted by agnar
    No doubt that there were race mixing, from free will or by rape, but not that it would infect our race.
    I just want to add something concerning rapes; the fact is that cases of pregnancy after rapes are extremly rares. So, explaining the supposed miscegenation of a whole population by rapes is a bit hasty. Mixing only happens when the natives are consentents and don't feel oppressed, what's rather rare when you're occupied by aliens. It's just a general remark, you're not aimed. I doubt it occured in the Netherlands in such a proportion that it influenced the phenotypes of the locals anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by agnar
    We are different from Italians, French, spanish. But germans? Hardly.
    Indeed, we're substancially differents. No doubt. As French are substancially differents from Italians and Spaniards.

    Saying that, Agnar, family trees/genalogy often reveal surprises and if you had a spanish ancestor, you wouldn't be a spaniard or an "unpure" Dutch for that.
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    Post Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    I would say yes, if they would like come back to the "Deutschem Reich" absolutly. A forcing to integration is very bad because we can`t need a black sheep in our "Volk".

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    Post Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    Thread has been split; http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=39265 Please stay on topic; the thread is about the ethnic connection between the Netherlands and Germany.
    Last edited by Siegfried; Thursday, September 8th, 2005 at 11:00 AM.

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    Question Dietsland joined with Deutschland?

    Forgive me if Dietsland is not the correct word, but would the Dutch and Flemish here want to have their countries joined to Germany in a "Grootduitsland"? I guess my question is as simple as that.

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    Re: Dietsland joined with Deutschland?

    Well Im an outsider but I doubt that this will work because they didn't like it in the WW2 and I don't think they'd like it now.. They have different languages (even though they are Germanic), and different cultures...

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    Re: Dietsland joined with Deutschland?

    Quote Originally Posted by grazny
    ... They have different languages (even though they are Germanic), and different cultures...
    Very wrong, the dialect spoken in NRW is pretty close to the dutch language, so close both could talk with each other. Even I (I am from Franconia) can read dutch quite good.
    The same goes for the culture, a guy from Aachen has much more in common with someone from Maastricht than with a guy from Munich or Berlin.
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    Re: Dietsland joined with Deutschland?

    Quote Originally Posted by thiedischer
    Forgive me if Dietsland is not the correct word, but would the Dutch and Flemish here want to have their countries joined to Germany in a "Grootduitsland"? I guess my question is as simple as that.

    Well, about this subject there are different views, as a native Dutch I strongly support any idea which will result in a unifacation with the future German Reich. We are both related peoples, by blood, tongue and culture-heritage.

    My personal goal is that one day there will be a Germanic empire established, which, ofcourse Netherlands, Flanders and French-Flanders united as a Germanic westmark under the name Dietschland will be a part of it.

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    Re: Dietsland joined with Deutschland?

    If the EU broke apart and the western germanic countries wanted to form their own united political entity, then sure why not. However you would have to ensure the cultural survival of the Dutch and especially the Frisians. They would have to be on an equal footing, not like in WW2. What would the Frisians gain by uniting with lesser germanic tribes anyways? (just kiding....kind of)

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    Re: Dietsland joined with Deutschland?

    Quote Originally Posted by ubbe
    However you would have to ensure the cultural survival of the Dutch and especially the Frisians. They would have to be on an equal footing, not like in WW2. What would the Frisians gain by uniting with lesser germanic tribes anyways? (just kiding....kind of)
    Do you know that Frisia is also a part of Germany?
    And what do you mean with equal footing, I think our current census is that they need to do it voluntarily, if they do so, they become part of the Reich, nothing more or less than e.g. Saxony.

    WW2 is very bad example, that was war, and of course no sane person would give an hostile country the same say.

    Fruthermore are the frisians the ones who sold their women to the romans, I prefer to be a Frank
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    Re: Dietsland joined with Deutschland?

    Give the Frisians the coastline from Flanders to Denmark

    Hey buddy while the Franks were wiping paganism out in western europe, the Frisians were fighting to preserve their faith

    I cant argue with orko icon though ! So I offer my peace.

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