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  • The Dutch are Low German

    91 60.26%
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    23 15.23%
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Thread: Are the Dutch Low German or Are the Low Germans Dutch? / Should the Netherlands Join Germany?

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    Post Re : Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    Not unless WWIII happens.
    Even with WWIII, hardly. Who owns nuclear weapons, huh ?
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    Post Re: Re : Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    Quote Originally Posted by Theobald
    Even with WWIII, hardly. Who owns nuclear weapons, huh ?

    Hmm, from what i know, France has a good nuclear force.........

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    Post Re: Re : Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    Before making a war against France, lets first deal with this present multicultural nightmerry, shall we comrades?

    Besides, there are more ways to re-Germanize our lost regions then by force. What to think of a mass migration of Dutch speaking settlers. What the Walloons can do in and around Brussels, then Dutch and Flemish migrants certainly can do the same in southern flemish citys and villages.

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    Post AW: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    I voted yes. Since Germanics share the same nationality by blood, it is only logical that they share the same citizenship.

    But I do not believe that Germanics should coerce other Germanics to such an end, no matter how noble. It should be voluntary, negotiated, and with the appropriate cultural safeguards.

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    Post Re: AW: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    Great post Artois Redneck... I think, that we as Flemish and Dutch, no matter what kind of ideas we have about an independent Flanders, unification with Netherlands yes or not, Dietsland, and which part of Nord pas de Calais should be return to us... No matter of these different ideas and thoughts and ideals, i truelly believe that we as the Dutch apeaking community must make some efforts to French-Flanders. First of all, within the E.U, everyone can live where he wants. Therefore, we should promote the idea of relocation of Dutch and Flemish to French-Flanders, and especially those who are aware and proud of their heritage to prevent assimilation. We must establish an large Dutch speaking community in French-Flanders, with economical and political influence and power. And with the strength to make the present French speaking locals of Flemish ancestry aware of their roots and to re-germanize them. I think this idea to germanize French-Flanders is an option which should not imiadetly be denied or pushed away. French-Flanders, from Rijsel to Somme is an large area with great opportuinities for our Dutch-Flemish people. We can even take in considaration to bring home Afrikaner brothers and sisters here, if they wish no longer black oppression in South-Africa.

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    Post Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    I was looking at a map of France and trying to figure out what parts belong to Flanders.
    I assume its the regions of Nord Pas de Calais and Picardie, particularly the departments of Nord, Pas De Calais and Somme.
    Is this about right?
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    Post Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    im against Netherlands becoming part of GrossDeutschland

    Dutch and Germans are too different.

    First of all we speak different languages and we have different cultures.

    Second, we dont share the same bloodline. Dutch people are basically a mixture of Germanic, Celtic, Roman, Spanish and French

    Germans are a different mix.

    The only people I personally would consider joining a country with are the Flemings. Flemings are very close to Dutch people.

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    Post Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    Spanish bloodlines? Hope executiona9 can explane that. In mine family tree there is no Spanish blood. And he should study more about German-Dutch relationships. Iam from the Dutch-German border region and I can tell you with certainty that our culture and language are closely related, and that Dutch and German have same bloodlines. The bloodlines of Germans and Dutch are quite a like, only Germans have also some Slavic bloodlines.

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    Post Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    Quote Originally Posted by agnar
    Spanish bloodlines? Hope executiona9 can explane that. In mine family tree there is no Spanish blood. And he should study more about German-Dutch relationships. Iam from the Dutch-German border region and I can tell you with certainty that our culture and language are closely related, and that Dutch and German have same bloodlines. The bloodlines of Germans and Dutch are quite a like, only Germans have also some Slavic bloodlines.
    Belgium and the Netherlands have been part of Spain for a long time. Due to the mixing that went on in that period (hundreds of years ago) all Belgians and Dutch have some Spanish blood.

    Belgium and the Netherlands have had many different oppressors (France, Spain, Austria etc). You get blood from all those people.

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    Post Re: Are the Netherlands part of Großdeutschland?

    Sorry, but I do not agree with you. Ofcourse, knowing the reputation of mideteranian men is most likly that they mixed with locals, but not on that large scale. And besides, the Spanish troops didnt only existed out of Spanish soldiers. Very often, their soldiers where Germans, Scots, Swiss, etc. I did checked out my family tree, my surname dates back to the 12th century. My race is pure Germanic, the only non-Dutch bloodlines I have, is to relate them back from an German ancestor and part of French blood. My grandmother was 50% french, from the north-the Germanic part of France. My fathers part of the family is pure to the bones. Farmers sine centuries, without foreign blood. He was the first to move to the city. So, I can asure you that I do not have spanish blood.

    When an nation is occupied, it doesnt necesarry mean mass-mixing. Germany controlled our nation only five years. How many local women mixed with German soldiers? I do not have numbers, but it wont hardly that much that it would influence the population. The same can be said during the occupations of Spain, Muenster and Cologne, France.... No doubt that there were race mixing, from free will or by rape, but not that it would infect our race. An other issue ofcourse are the presence of the French protestant refugees, followed by German workers-mainly from westphalia and Rhineland-, Sottish, Irish etc. Surnames are the best to trace back roots, but to call the Diets people an mixed race, goes way to far. There are and there is mixing from other nationalities, but for an great part they melted up in our genetype. As long it wont be negro, jewish, Arabian blood, I dont see the problem. The Diets people have transformed from three Germanic people into an united population who share the same history, culture and language. And those few foreign bloodlines doesnt make an difference, and racially we are not much different from our German brothers. We are different from Italians, French, spanish. But germans? Hardly.

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