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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    Dividing something which could be one is not preservation.


    It is preservation, cultural preservation, but you said for yourself being Germanic is more than culture, so it is no Germanic preservation.
    They would have Germanic blood as well. I am Germanic, hello.
    Did all your ancestors have German blood Jäger?
    I never said it was, you are twisting my words, you said Germanic is more than culture, and I agreed, I stated race is important, too, but you don't consider your husband Germanic because of his blood, regardless of his race, thus your offspring will only be half-Germanic (not in my opinion, I just follow your logic).
    Yes, correct, my offspring will be half Germanic by blood. I never said they'd be fully Germanic by blood, but by culture. The Germanic in them won't be gone, they will marry at least half Germanic people so it will be preserved.
    You are twisting my words again, I said one of the Germanic races.
    Which are these Germanic races? :
    Because there is no Germanic race, and race is blood, we recognize blood by race.
    (And since race is not just the phenotype, it might be that there actually is a wider Germanic parent-race, but this is a scientific discussion.)
    Ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    I wondered why Celtogermanic was included in Meta-Ethnicity now I know why. Didn't know they were considered "close" to Germanics (Celts that is).
    CeltoGermanic doesn't really exist as a unique culture except on some relatively sparcely populated islands in the North Atlantic (Iceland, Føroyar, Shetlands). The English are predominately Germanic in terms of their genetic heritage and language. Europeans are paternal, so your Y-chromosome should traditionally take precedent in your ethnic self-identity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    I'm probably Romance-Germanic due to the fact that I have Lombard ancestry and they would've have mixed with native Italians. Therefore, not fully Germanic. ? ?
    I think you're right, if the definition of Germanic is stretched to include Celts, there could also be Fenno-Germanic, Slavo-Germanic (the horror!), Balto-Germanic, Italo-Germanic, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    Did all your ancestors have German blood Jäger?
    Depends, I guess, however I already said, that I would consider your husband Germanic if he is racially compatible and lives by Germanic culture, race and culture is enough to be Germanic, you said that culture and ancestry are important.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    Yes, correct, my offspring will be half Germanic by blood.
    Which is not Germanic preservation. (Mind you, depending on your husbands racial composition, I wouldn't call your offspring "half Germanic by blood", you did)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    Which are these Germanic races? :
    Noridc, Faelic, Dinaric, Mediterane, Alpine, and (East-)Baltic after Günther. These are the "new" Germanic races, the core races most likely consisted of Nordic and Faelic and maybe Dinaric.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    Depends, I guess, however I already said, that I would consider your husband Germanic if he is racially compatible and lives by Germanic culture, race and culture is enough to be Germanic, you said that culture and ancestry are important.
    Yep, I know.
    Which is not Germanic preservation. (Mind you, depending on your husbands racial composition, I wouldn't call your offspring "half Germanic by blood", you did)
    So the fact that I'm Germanic by blood and pass on my blood through my children ain't preservation? What would it make my children then, fully Serbian? Don't judge by your standards now.
    Noridc, Faelic, Dinaric, Mediterane, Alpine, and (East-)Baltic after Günther. These are the "new" Germanic races, the core races most likely consisted of Nordic and Faelic and maybe Dinaric.
    So lemme see if I understood well... an Alpine is a Germanic? A Med is Germanic? Cause my husband was classified as Alpine + East Med, that makes him Germanic? I'm either Faelid or Noric + something. :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    So the fact that I'm Germanic by blood and pass on my blood through my children ain't preservation?
    No, because you are not the only one passing your blood, you might not know, but it takes two to reproduce.
    If you mated with a Nigger it wouldn't be any different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    What would it make my children then, fully Serbian? Don't judge by your standards now.
    By your standards they were half non-Germanic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    So lemme see if I understood well... an Alpine is a Germanic? A Med is Germanic?
    No, an Alpine or a Med can be Germanic depending on their culture.
    You seem to forget instantly what I wrote before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    No, because you are not the only one passing your blood, you might not know, but it takes two to reproduce.
    If you mated with a Nigger it wouldn't be any different.
    Yes it would. You do know there is a difference between a white man and aNegro don't you Jäger? Cmon, you learned about anthropology didn't you?
    By your standards they were half non-Germanic.
    Yes, by blood. But half Germanic too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    Before you have another go at me, mate, I advise you to read my posts properly. Not once did I say that my husband is Germanic. In fact, when Jaeger suggested that I call him an Anglo-American, I wasn't fine with that. He is Germanicized at most, which ain't the same as Germanic. Germanic ain't just a matter of culture.

    P.S: Ever heard of Gaelic? Go to Ireland or Scotland and tell them they're Germanic LOL.
    In that case then you're apparent preservationist and NS beliefs seem to contradict your personal life. In which case you are doing nothing but talking on the net, which you made a thread about.

    Also yes, I've heard of Gaelic, I wouldn't want to go to Ireland, and most of the Scots I know are aware of Norse/Germanic blood, my family included.

    It seems your view is that as long as they are "white" it's fine. I see this as just as big a problem to cultural and racial preservation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beornulf View Post
    In that case then you're apparent preservationist and NS beliefs seem to contradict your personal life. In which case you are doing nothing but talking on the net, which you made a thread about.
    No they don't contradict one another. Like I said, I am preserving both my blood and my culture. Do some math, my children will be half Germanic by blood and fully by culture. I didn't say I was a purist did I? Your definition of preservation ain't the same as mine and I didn't lecture anyone on the site whom they should marry and how wrong it is, unlike some folks here whose profile fields aren't long enough to encompass all their ethnicities. What I made a thread about was entirely different, it was in reference to the cyberwarriors who don't stand by their words in real life, those who fly NS flags on forums but don't have the guts to fly them in their countries and hide. I stand by what I say and I even gave my real name on this site unlike many folks here. So don't accuse me of crap I never claimed.
    Also yes, I've heard of Gaelic, I wouldn't want to go to Ireland, and most of the Scots I know are aware of Norse/Germanic blood, my family included.
    Ever been to Scotland? I'm not talking about colonial people of Scottish ancestry, but about Scots proper.
    It seems your view is that as long as they are "white" it's fine. I see this as just as big a problem to cultural and racial preservation.
    NS is about racialism. Do you realize how hypocritical it is for a person of "Celtogermanic" mixed ethnic background to go on lecturing me about how just being white is a big problem? "Celtogermanic" is no more and no less Germanic than "Slavogermanic". Get over it.

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    Having read some of the above threads, I really couldn't be bothered arguing about what is considered to be Germanic

    My father was Maltese - supposedly a Med. I don't think so. The features in that description look decidely Arab, not like my dad at all.

    I am 6th generation Australian on my mother's side. That bloodline is predominantly Irish, along with English and Scottish. There is no other mix in my blood on my mother's side (with the exception of Norse), but my father's side is more doubtful, considering the geographical location of Malta, and the migratory patterns of the Phoenicians, Arabs and Germanics down through the ages.

    My ex-husband is Germanic/Australian - English and Scottish, and therefore, so are my children.

    In my view, there is no such thing as a pure Germanic race, unless you're from the furthest reaches of the Northern latitudes, and your society is homogenous. How many can honestly claim that they are? We only need to think about how different races either died out, or assimilated with others. This includes people from the British Isles and Ireland. There would be scant few of them who could really call themselves Gaelic, except perhaps the Welsh, and the Manx (perhaps even before the Gaels). But I'm really only speculating.

    I'm a Germanic Heathen in any case, because my first concern is to preserve what's left of my culture. I'm also a Germanic Heathen because of my practises and honouring my ancestry.

    Some may ask "How can you be? You're in the Southern Hemisphere!" That doesn't matter one jot. The culture came with my ancestry. There are lots of other countries where migrants from Germanic nations moved to.

    I can't follow the purist notion but I for one don't really care. As I remember rightly, this thread is Peripherally Germanic - meaning outer or surrounding regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Angel View Post
    No they don't contradict one another. Like I said, I am preserving both my blood and my culture. Do some math, my children will be half Germanic by blood and fully by culture. I didn't say I was a purist did I? Your definition of preservation ain't the same as mine and I didn't lecture anyone on the site whom they should marry and how wrong it is, unlike some folks here whose profile fields aren't long enough to encompass all their ethnicities. What I made a thread about was entirely different, it was in reference to the cyberwarriors who don't stand by their words in real life, those who fly NS flags on forums but don't have the guts to fly them in their countries and hide. I stand by what I say and I even gave my real name on this site unlike many folks here. So don't accuse me of crap I never claimed.

    Ever been to Scotland? I'm not talking about colonial people of Scottish ancestry, but about Scots proper.

    NS is about racialism. Do you realize how hypocritical it is for a person of "Celtogermanic" mixed ethnic background to go on lecturing me about how just being white is a big problem? "Celtogermanic" is no more and no less Germanic than "Slavogermanic". Get over it.
    Don't take my posts as lectures or personal attacks, I'm merely questioning out of interest. Good debate is healthy, I find it of interest that someone who is "NS/fascist" would marry a Slavic person given the Worldviews opinions on Slavic folk.

    I've never been to Scotland, I plan to move there soon however so I will encounter it then. It really comes down to where they come from, clan associations and the person in question.

    In regards to my own background, I am marginally Celtic by blood and even less by culture. I put Celto-Germanic simply because it would be purely dishonest to put just Germanic. Celtic people settled a vast area of Europe, and contributed to the growth and ethnic background of many nations, it would be hard to find a Western European with absolutely no Celtic admixture. Furthermore, Celtogermanic is predominant in the British Isles, I intend to have children with someone with English or Scottish descent. So that is preservation of a culture/racial stock which is distinct to my heritage.
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