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    Italian Murder provokes Action

    And before you tell me that this is un-related to Germanic Europe, I remind you that Austria is only just down the road - and that the British government has only recently confirmed that immigration from Romania and Bulgaria will remain subject to restrictions. This does not however prevent criminal and similar elements entering whenever they wish. To do this, we need better Intelligence and Border Security!! :



    Anti-Romanian backlash sweeps Italy after Admiral dies in brutal sex attack

    .Daily Mail
    updated at 12:39pm on 2nd November 2007

    Premier Romano Prodi's Cabinet have approved a decree giving authorities the power to expel European Union citizens 'for reasons of public safety'


    An Italian woman has died two days after a brutal beating by a suspected foreigner. It is the latest in a string of attacks blamed on Romanians that has prompted Italy to order the expulsion of any European Union citizen deemed dangerous. ----(( and others ??))


    Premier Romano Prodi's centre-left Cabinet have approved a decree giving authorities the power to expel European Union citizens "for reasons of public safety" to fight "episodes of heavy violence and ferocious crime."

    Despite the anti-immigrant backlash, Prodi insisted they were not "acting out of rage."

    "We are determined to keep a high and just level of security for our citizens," he said.

    The 47-year-old woman was the wife of an Italian navy commander. She was attacked as she walked along a road after dark on Tuesday toward the barracks where she lived, police said. She was beaten, dragged through mud and left half naked in a ditch.

    Italian state radio reported the woman was taken off life support today after tests showed that her brain activity had ceased.

    The crime has been blamed on Romanian Nicholae Mailat who lived in a Gypsy camp. Romania joined the European Union earlier this year.


    Mr Mailat who is in his 20s was found to have scratches on his back, police said. Police arrested Mailat, who lived in a shack in the camp, one of several sprawling settlements on the outskirts of Rome where thousands of residents - some legal, some not - live in hovels or trailers. Many are from Romania or the former Yugoslavia.

    Police said dozens of shacks would be knocked down as part of the crackdown.

    Italian news reports said Mailat had been given a three-year prison sentence in Romania for theft but had disappeared before he could be jailed.

    Romania's prime minister told Italian state TV Thursday night that he backed the Italian government's expulsion decree.

    Violent Romanians "will be sent back home without hesitation," Premier Calin Popescu Tariceanu said in an interview with Italian TV.

    A series of violent crimes in the capital has been blamed on Romanians in recent months. Oscar-winning director Giuseppe Tornatore was hospitalized over the summer after he was punched in the jaw by one of two muggers in an upscale neighborhood.

    Other attacks, including the mugging in August, allegedly by three Romanians, of a cyclist along the Tiber earlier this year, have shocked Rome, where street violence has long been unusual. The cyclist died in early October after weeks in a coma.

    "We need firm and energetic measures to stop this phenomenon," the Romanian premier said.

    Although the free movement of EU citizens within the 27 member nations is a cornerstone of EU policy, countries still have the right to keep certain people out if they are deemed dangerous.

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    There is no reason why Romania should not reorganize itself to improve conditions - even with our assistance. But it cannot expect the rest of Europe to take on its own national problems. After all they are not Africans!!

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    Times November 2, 2007

    Italy ( see above).

    Anger at EU immigrants explodes after woman's brutal death


    The brutal murder of a woman — allegedly by a homeless immigrant — as she returned home from shopping has brought to a head the simmering anger in Italy over the arrival of tens of thousands of impoverished Romanians.

    Giovanna Reggiani, 47, the wife of a naval captain, died last night after being raped, beaten and thrown into a drainage ditch as she walked home in the dark from a railway station in a suburb of Rome. Her assailant had smashed her face into an unrecognisable pulp with a stone before leaving her for dead, police said.

    Nicolae Romulus Mailat, 24, who came to Italy from Transylvania four months ago, was arrested at an immigrant bivouac of makeshift shacks on the Tiber embankment near the station at Tor di Quinto. Police were alerted by a Romanian woman who saw Mr Mailat returning to his shack covered in blood. She flagged down a bus and asked the driver to call police. Mr Mailat admitted robbing Ms Reggiani but denied raping her, police said.

    The horrific attack has appalled Italians, who blame Romanian immigrants for a wave of crime in the biggest cities since January, when Romania joined the European Union, and now threatens to drive a wedge between two nations that have a long history of cultural ties...........

    Romano Prodi, the Italian Prime Minister, telephoned Calin Popescu Tariceanu, the Romanian Prime Minister, yesterday to demand urgent action to prevent criminals from crossing the border. On Wednesday Mr Prodi chaired a Cabinet meeting that approved a measure allowing police chiefs to expel EUcitizens who posed a threat to public security, as well as immigrants from outside the EU.

    The measure, which would appear to contravene EU legislation on the free movement of people from member states, was due to be debated in Parliament within 60 days. Mr Prodi said yesterday that it would be imposed immediately by decree. He said: “These acts must not be repeated. We are not acting out of rage but we are determined to keep a high level of security for our citizens.”

    The furious reaction to the attack on Mrs Reggiani has exposed the anger felt by many Italians at what they perceive to be the inability of authorities to deal with a sharp rise in burglaries and assaults involving migrants from Eastern Europe, particularly Romania. In a front-page editorial Il Messaggero, the Rome daily, said “Our anger, frustration, fear and grief cannot be underestimated. This atrocious and vicious attack goes beyond our darkest imaginings, and is the direct consequence of excessive tolerance. We have blindly accepted anyone who wanted to come to Italy. We should have reacted much earlier.”

    Corriere della Sera said that Romanians had “replaced Moroccans and Albanians as Italians’ No 1 nightmare. The difference is that Romanians are now Europeans like us.”

    Walter Veltroni, the Mayor of Rome, said that Italy should have followed the example of Britain and other EU countries in imposing immigration limits for new EU members.

    Mr Veltroni said that before Romania’s EU accession Rome had been one of the safest cities in Europe. “These are not immigrants who came here to live, but criminal types,” he said. Mr Veltroni said 75 per cent of street crimes in Rome so far this year had been committed by Romanians, and there was a “risk of xenophobia”.

    Despite fears that Romanians would flood into Britain after their country joined the EU, most have headed for Southern Europe, especially Italy, because of affinities of language and culture. Cristian David, the Romanian Interior Minister, called on his compatriots to “help the Italian authorities combat crimes committed by our fellow nationals”. He said that the majority of Romanians were honest, and a “criminal minority” should not be allowed to damage the image of Romania as a whole.

    In the past 18 months Romanians have been responsible for 76 murders, more than 300 rapes and 2,000 robberies in Italy, according to police statistics. Nearly 400 Romanians have been charged with kidnappings, mostly involving prostitution, and 6,000 with receiving stolen goods.

    Concern that Bulgaria and Romania were let into the EU too soon means that most Balkan countries will have to wait at least a decade before they can join, officials in Brussels said yesterday. The slow pace of judicial reform in Bucharest and Sofia created a backlash against rapid membership.

    A progress report on EU applicants will paint a damning picture of political and judicial corruption, The Times understands. The draft report, due to be published on Tuesday, covers the three official candidate countries – Croatia, Turkey and Macedonia – as well as the potential applicants Albania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, Serbia and the breakaway Serbian province of Kosovo.

    In numbers

    2 million Romanians live abroad, 10 per cent of the country’s population!!!!

    1 in 2 of those is in Italy or Spain

    €114 monthly minimum wage in Romania, a tenth of that in the UK....((at present...!!))

    Sources: Eurostat, Euromonitor

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    VERY STRANGE how Italy often leads the way when it comes to EU regulations !! Who are we to criticize. The British government has recently reaffirmed its continued exclusion orders with respect to Romanian workers . This doesnt stop them coming here of course.

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    Italy starts rounding up Romanian immigrants

    DTelegraph. 03/11/2007

    Italy has begun rounding up thousands of Romanian immigrants for deportation after passing a new "public order and security" law.

    Death of Italian woman brings tensions to crescendo
    Masgras Neculai, 30, a petty thief, was named as the first Romanian who would be expelled under the new law, which allows anyone who is considered "dangerous" to society to be sent home.

    Police in Rome have begun rounding up Romanians


    The law was rushed through the Italian cabinet on Wednesday after huge public outcry following the savage murder of Giovanna Reggiani, a 47-year-old Italian woman, allegedly by a Romanian man.

    The decree has now been officially published and has come into force immediately.

    Police have begun combing immigrant ghettos and arresting Romanians without permits.

    Government ministers have vowed to return 5,000 Romanians to their home country in the next few weeks.

    The move appeared to have the blessing of the European Union.

    Franco Frattini, the European commissioner for justice, freedom and security, said: "What has to be done is simple. Go into a nomad camp in Rome for example, and ask them: 'Can you tell me where you live?'

    "If they say they do not know, take them and send them home to Romania. That is how the European directive works.

    It is simple and safe. Romania cannot say they will not take them back, because it is an obligation that is part of being a member state of the EU."

    He also urged Italy to pull down the camps to prevent any Romanians from returning.

    However, the relevant European directive specifically states that expulsions should not be targeted at any ethic group, and that "the personal conduct of the individual concerned must represent a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of the fundamental interests of society".

    Previous criminal convictions are not grounds enough for deportation, it adds, and deportees must be given one month's notice.

    Nello Rossi, the head of Italy's National Magistrates Association, said that each expulsion would have to be justified, and that "there cannot be mass indiscriminate expulsions".

    He said: "The new law does not appear to conform to our own constitution or to the European law which recognises the right of European citizens to circulate freely and stay within the territory of any member state."

    The Italian home office said each Romanian would be brought before a justice of the peace to plead his case before being transported home on planes or buses.

    The Romanian government said that it accepts that any violent offenders should be repatriated.

    While waiting for transport, Romanians will be held in one of 13 detention centres.

    Twenty Romanians were arrested in Rome, another 10 in Turin and handfuls from the rest of the country, while makeshift shacks were torn down. A team of Romanian police has arrived to assist.

    The move has enormous public support. A survey on Sky television in Italy showed 83 per cent of people backed the deportations.

    More than 550,000 Romanians, or 15 per cent of the immigrant population, have arrived in Italy since 2002.

    Walter Veltroni, the Rome mayor, has claimed that 75 per cent of all crimes in the capital this year have been carried out by Romanians.

    In contrast, petty crime in Romania has dropped by 26 per cent.


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    Such things could not happen in liberal northern Europe, could they !!! .


    But,perhaps this explains the recent action of the British government in continuing our legal restrictions..... Ah... but then, there's always the criminal way ..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl View Post
    Italy starts rounding up Romanian immigrants

    DTelegraph. 03/11/2007

    Italy has begun rounding up thousands of Romanian immigrants for deportation after passing a new "public order and security" law.

    Death of Italian woman brings tensions to crescendo
    Masgras Neculai, 30, a petty thief, was named as the first Romanian who would be expelled under the new law, which allows anyone who is considered "dangerous" to society to be sent home.

    Police in Rome have begun rounding up Romanians


    The law was rushed through the Italian cabinet on Wednesday after huge public outcry following the savage murder of Giovanna Reggiani, a 47-year-old Italian woman, allegedly by a Romanian man.

    The decree has now been officially published and has come into force immediately.

    Police have begun combing immigrant ghettos and arresting Romanians without permits.

    Government ministers have vowed to return 5,000 Romanians to their home country in the next few weeks.

    The move appeared to have the blessing of the European Union.

    Franco Frattini, the European commissioner for justice, freedom and security, said: "What has to be done is simple. Go into a nomad camp in Rome for example, and ask them: 'Can you tell me where you live?'

    "If they say they do not know, take them and send them home to Romania. That is how the European directive works.

    It is simple and safe. Romania cannot say they will not take them back, because it is an obligation that is part of being a member state of the EU."

    He also urged Italy to pull down the camps to prevent any Romanians from returning.

    However, the relevant European directive specifically states that expulsions should not be targeted at any ethic group, and that "the personal conduct of the individual concerned must represent a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of the fundamental interests of society".

    Previous criminal convictions are not grounds enough for deportation, it adds, and deportees must be given one month's notice.

    Nello Rossi, the head of Italy's National Magistrates Association, said that each expulsion would have to be justified, and that "there cannot be mass indiscriminate expulsions".

    He said: "The new law does not appear to conform to our own constitution or to the European law which recognises the right of European citizens to circulate freely and stay within the territory of any member state."

    The Italian home office said each Romanian would be brought before a justice of the peace to plead his case before being transported home on planes or buses.

    The Romanian government said that it accepts that any violent offenders should be repatriated.

    While waiting for transport, Romanians will be held in one of 13 detention centres.

    Twenty Romanians were arrested in Rome, another 10 in Turin and handfuls from the rest of the country, while makeshift shacks were torn down. A team of Romanian police has arrived to assist.

    The move has enormous public support. A survey on Sky television in Italy showed 83 per cent of people backed the deportations.

    More than 550,000 Romanians, or 15 per cent of the immigrant population, have arrived in Italy since 2002.

    Walter Veltroni, the Rome mayor, has claimed that 75 per cent of all crimes in the capital this year have been carried out by Romanians.

    In contrast, petty crime in Romania has dropped by 26 per cent.


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    Such things could not happen in liberal northern Europe, could they !!! .


    But,perhaps this explains the recent action of the British government in continuing our legal restrictions..... Ah... but then, there's always the criminal way ..........
    All I can say to that is, my hat goes off to the Italian government. If only our weak-minded pawns to George W. could think for themselves and take measures to get rid of the undesirables in this country

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    "Rumanians" or Gypsies, though?

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    I guess that the majority of these Romanians are gypo's rather then actual Romanians.
    Gypsies have always had a nasty reputation and ooh I wonder why...eyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by lögsögumaður View Post
    I guess that the majority of these Romanians are gypo's rather then actual Romanians.
    Gypsies have always had a nasty reputation and ooh I wonder why...eyes:

    --yes , hard to know the details yet. Dont know if this one was a gypo - it needn't be surely?

    check this :

    European Security
    04.11.2007

    Deutsche Welle

    Italy Expels EU Citizens.:eek: Concerns Rise About 'Vendettas'

    An Italian police officer stands by homeless people forced out of their makeshift houses on the Tiber river banks Italian authorities have expelled Romanians they deem dangerous and torn down a Roma and Sinti camp in the wake of the killing of an Italian naval officer's wife. Some fear an increase of racist violence.

    Italian officials raised fears of an anti-Romanian "vendetta" on Saturday, Nov. 3, following apparent reprisal attacks the day before over the death of a woman allegedly killed by a Romanian.

    "Unfortunately, it's what we fear," Interior Minister Giuliano Amato told La Repubblica daily of Friday's attacks against three Romanians by masked men armed with sticks.


    "We must prevent this terrible tiger that is xenophobic hatred, the racist beast, from leaving its cage," Amato said.


    Meanwhile, Rome marked a day of mourning Saturday for Giovanna Reggiani, a 47-year-old naval officer's wife who was allegedly attacked and found comatose in a ditch outside Rome. She later died in a hospital.

    Several hundred people attended her funeral Saturday, including Amato and Rome's Mayor Walter Veltroni.


    Expulsions

    A 24-year-old Romanian youth was arrested Tuesday and stands accused of being Reggiani's assailant, which he denies. Her assault prompted an emergency decree Wednesday to facilitate expulsions of EU citizens considered a security threat.


    The funeral of Giovanna Reggiani in Rome on Saturday

    Italians have fumed for years over petty crimes by poor immigrants from Romania and elsewhere.


    After the attack on Reggiani, Prodi issued a decree opening the way for prefects to expel European Union citizens who were considered dangerous. The targets of the decree have so far been immigrants from Romania, which joined the bloc this year, and have the same

    RIGHTs as other EU citizens to travel freely across borders.

    "Nobody imagined having to face 500,000 poor souls that in one year have left Romania for Italy," Interior Minister Giuliano Amato said.

    A judge must sign off on an expulsion order but no criminal history is necessary and nor is a trial, according to the interior ministry.

    Milan's Prefect Gianvalerio Lombardi expelled the first four Romanians on Friday. Four new expulsion orders were signed on Saturday, according to Italy's ANSA news agency. Authorities in northern Turin, Genoa, Val d'Aosta and Lecce in southern Italy also followed suit Saturday, the news agency reported.

    All the decrees must be approved by judges to take effect and they only last three years. Those expelled have a month to leave the country.

    Last year 15.4 percent of foreigners accused of murder, sexual violence and theft in Italy were Romanian, police say.

    Concern over reprisals

    An Italian police officer destroys makeshift houses on the Tiber river banks
    Friday's attack against the three Romanians at a supermarket parking lot by 10 masked men armed with sticks, knives and iron bars has raised concern of reprisals against ordinary members of the Romanian community, Italy's largest immigrant group.

    Initial reports said four were targeted in the attack in a southern Roman suburb, near shantytowns where foreigners live in squalor.

    The most seriously injured, Emil Marcu, 47, was in stable condition following an overnight operation, according to hospital sources quoted by ANSA. Witnesses told police the assailants, who fled the scene, were Italian.

    Reaction to the assaults was swift, with Italian media linking the incident to Reggiani's death -- although the two events occurred some 20 kilometers (12 miles) apart -- and politicians of all stripes warning against reprisals against Romanians.

    "We must avoid at all cost a spiral of vendettas to be established," said Fabrizio Cicchitto of the conservative Forza Italia party of former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi.

    Rome Mayor Veltroni, recently crowned the new leader of Italy's center-left and the heir apparent to Prime Minister Romano Prodi, also urged people to "be inspired by the values of civil society, and not by vendetta."


    Still, the attacks have sparked partisan sparring, with the left accusing the right of using the tragedy for their political ends and Berlusconi charging the leftist government of being lax on security.

    DW staff (jam)

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    Italy rocked by racist claims after gypsy expulsions

    Rome . November 5, 2007


    ITALIAN authorities have torn down a gypsy camp and expelled 20 Romanians from the country while condemning a "racist" attack in Rome, apparently triggered by the murder of an Italian naval officer's wife....

    Masked assailants with knives, clubs and canes stabbed and beat four Romanians outside a Rome supermarket late on Friday. One of the victims is in a serious condition.

    The attack partly overshadowed the funeral in Rome on Saturday of Giovanna Reggiani, 47, who police believe was fatally wounded by a Romanian man as she left a train station on Tuesday. "We're looking for justice - severe, austere - but not intolerance," the chaplain, Patrizio Benvenuti, said at the funeral.

    Ms Reggiani's death prompted authorities to level the Rome gypsy camp where the Romanian suspect lived and to start expelling Romanians deemed to be dangerous. Seventeen expulsion orders were signed in the city of Genoa and three in Rome on Saturday, local media said.

    The tragedy has sparked a war of words over the immigration policy of the centre-left Prime Minister, Romano Prodi, and raised the threat of racist violence. "We must prevent this terrible tiger, which is xenophobic rage, the racist beast, from getting out of control," the Interior Minister, Giuliano Amato, told La Repubblica.

    The Romanian embassy, alarmed by the attack on its citizens, called on Rome to ensure "acts of xenophobia like this one don't repeat themselves".

    The Archbishop of Lecce, Cosmo Francesco Ruppi, warned against targeting foreigners and following the "dangerous path of racism".

    Italians have fumed for years over petty crimes by poor immigrants. But, after Ms Reggiani's death, Mr Prodi issued a decree giving prefects the ability to expel European Union citizens who were considered dangerous.

    The targets of the decree have so far been immigrants from Romania, which joined the bloc this year, and have the same right as other EU citizens to freely travel across borders.

    "Nobody imagined having to face 500,000 poor souls that in one year have left Romania for Italy," Mr Amato said.

    A judge must sign off on the expulsion order but no criminal history is necessary and nor is a trial, the Interior Ministry said.

    Government ministers have vowed to return 5000 Romanians to their home country in the next few weeks. The move appeared to have the blessing of the EU. Franco Frattini, the European Commissioner for Justice, Freedom and Security, said: "What has to be done is simple. Go into a nomad camp in Rome for example, and ask them: 'Can you tell me where you live?'

    "If they say they do not know, take them and send them home to Romania. That is how the European directive works."

    However, the relevant European directive states that expulsions should not be aimed at any ethnic group, and that "the personal conduct of the individual concerned must represent a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of the fundamental interests of society".

    A team of Romanian police has arrived to assist in the operation, which has enormous public support. A Sky TV survey in Italy showed 83 per cent of people backed the deportations.

    Reuters; London:

    taken from the Sydney Morning Herald.


    On the London front --

    http://forums.skadi.net/showpost.php...03&postcount=1

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    REUTERS -- Political implications.

    November 5, 2007

    ROME – Cracks in Italy's centre-left coalition widened on Monday over emergency legislation giving police greater powers to expel European Union immigrants.

    The measures, prompted by public anger at a series of crimes blamed on poor Romanian immigrants, have sparked diplomatic tensions with Bucharest and are the latest test of unity for Prime Minister Romano Prodi's patchwork alliance.

    Left-wing coalition parties believe the emergency decree is racist and may run counter to Italy's constitution.
    Cesare Salvi, a leading member of the Democratic Left, accused Prodi of adopting the populist agenda of Silvio Berlusconi's opposition. Salvi said he hoped the measures would be diluted in the Senate, where the government has only a razor-thin majority.

    The decree allows local authorities to expel European Union citizens they consider to be dangerous.

    A judge must sign the expulsion order but no proof of a criminal record is necessary and neither is a trial.

    Romanian President Traian Basescu has criticised the measures and the official newspaper of Italy's Communist Refoundation, one of nine parties which prop up Prodi's administration, called them 'disgusting and Fascist.''

    Improvised measures that induce fear and awaken hatred can be unjust and can have other effects than those hoped,' Basescu said on Sunday.

    Italian authorities on Saturday tore down a gypsy camp and expelled around 20 Romanians under the new powers. ((20!!))

    PRIME MINISTERS TO MEET

    Prodi told reporters on Monday he would meet Romanian Prime Minister Calin Tariceanu in Rome in a few days.

    'There is no diplomatic friction ...we have to resolve the problems with cooperation among our two countries, but we have to resolve them,' he said.

    Opposition lawmakers, keen to exploit government divisions, have hinted they will support the decree if it is made even tougher and as long as there are guarantees the expulsion orders are actually carried out.

    Prodi's government could be at risk if the measures are passed thanks to the opposition's support.

    Berlusconi called a meeting of centre-right parties on Monday to ensure they present a united front in parliament.

    The crackdown comes at a time of rising tensions between Italians and Romanian immigrants who have the same right as other EU citizens to travel freely across borders after Romania joined the EU this year.

    Last week masked assailants brandishing knives and clubs stabbed and beat four Romanians outside a Rome supermarket. The attack followed the arrest of a Romanian suspected of murdering an Italian naval officer's wife outside a Rome

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