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    Post A Higher Intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoob

    How much it (IQ) correlates with intelligence... eh, who cares? Stupid people don't know they're stupid, so what's the point of thinking you're smart?
    Which brings up a good point. Retards can't comprehend that there are people with 140+ IQs. But imagine that there is an intelligence behind the universe, that makes the most intelligent human look like a supreme retard. Humans think highly of themselves. Too highly I think. I think they should be more humble in that respect.

    I think there is a higher intelligence behind the universe because without it, there would be no purpose to anything. No direction. Nothing. But there is a direction. Everything has a purpose, even if we don't understand it at this point in time.
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    Post Re: A Higer Intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    Which brings up a good point. Retards can't comprehend that there are people with 140+ IQs. But imagine that there is an intelligence behind the universe, that makes the most intelligent human look like a supreme retard. Humans think highly of themselves. Too highly I think. I think they should be more humble in that respect.

    I think there is a higher intelligence behind the universe because without it, there would be no purpose to anything. No direction. Nothing. But there is a direction. Everything has a purpose, even if we don't understand it at this point in time.
    I think there might be order behind apparently random things that humans experience. This is the realm of physics and metaphysics. I also think that such order is somewhat irrelevant to human life. Do the bacteria living in my gut really need to understand my posts on the Internet, or even that I exist? It's irrelevant to their existence.
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    Post Re: A Higer Intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoob
    Do the bacteria living in my gut really need to understand my posts on the Internet, or even that I exist? It's irrelevant to their existence.

    They are not aware that you exist. Nor are they aware that your intelligence is greater than theirs. What you just said adds support to my argument. Imagine humans as being in the gut of something larger that we can not even comprehend.
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    Post Re: A Higer Intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    They are not aware that you exist. Nor are they aware that your intelligence is greater than theirs. What you just said adds support to my argument. Imagine humans as being in the gut of something larger that we can not even comprehend.
    Right. So imagine that everything I do is part of some the plan of some super-human entity. What's that got to do with me? It's beyond me.
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    Post Re: A Higher Intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    Which brings up a good point. Retards can't comprehend that there are people with 140+ IQs. But imagine that there is an intelligence behind the universe, that makes the most intelligent human look like a supreme retard. Humans think highly of themselves. Too highly I think. I think they should be more humble in that respect.

    I think there is a higher intelligence behind the universe because without it, there would be no purpose to anything. No direction. Nothing. But there is a direction. Everything has a purpose, even if we don't understand it at this point in time.
    This is mere speculation of course.
    It is far more likely to be the case that human beings NEED to give purpose and direction to things.
    This can be shown by our tendency to rationalise dis-connected events; to find reasons for accidents [e.g., conspiracy theories over the death of Diana Princess of Wales in a car-crash etc.,]
    We even tend to see 'faces' in abstract marks [man in the moon etc.,].

    From this tendency we then assume there to be an intelligence 'behind' the world, but there is no real evidence for this.
    Arguments from intelligent design can alternatively be explained far more plausibly [and elegantly] by evolution.

    It is enough to say that we need purpose to give life a sense of a goal; that doesn't mean that a goal is inherent in life itself.
    The goal is in us.
    As is God.

    Indeed, our smallness to which you at first refer, seems to suggest that there is no grand plan for humans in the Universe. We are more probably a result of an accident which is of complete unimportance.
    There is no real goal to the Universe which is vast beyond our human comprehension.
    To say that this Universe is governed by an 'intelligence' is just a way of trying to put what is incomprehensible into a human strait-jacket.
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
    [Leibniz/Heidegger]

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    Re: A Higher Intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    Which brings up a good point. Retards can't comprehend that there are people with 140+ IQs. But imagine that there is an intelligence behind the universe, that makes the most intelligent human look like a supreme retard. Humans think highly of themselves. Too highly I think. I think they should be more humble in that respect.

    I think there is a higher intelligence behind the universe because without it, there would be no purpose to anything. No direction. Nothing. But there is a direction. Everything has a purpose, even if we don't understand it at this point in time.

    Yes I think humans are laughable creatures really....Their bombastic 'so- called' knowledge of evolution, the universe, religion etc... ...please spare me......I still think we(humans) are some kind of creation made by 'the aliens'...I mean this phrase in speculation..... Wake up you stupid humans.....we are not the centre of the universe ...there is far more superior beings out there....we are their freak sideshow.....they occasionally slum it...and visit earth to view the misfits of their creation....An evil 'alien' with the spirit of the god LOKI made man.....

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    Post Re: A Higher Intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by SKADI
    Yes I think humans are laughable creatures really....Their bombastic 'so- called' knowledge of evolution, the universe, religion etc... ...please spare me......I still think we(humans) are some kind of creation made by 'the aliens'...I mean this phrase in speculation..... Wake up you stupid humans.....we are not the centre of the universe ...there is far more superior beings out there....we are their freak sideshow.....they occasionally slum it...and visit earth to view the misfits of their creation....An evil 'alien' with the spirit of the god LOKI made man.....
    I think most of what people call god is a sort of group-superego. It might have some kind of existence, as an "egregor" - some kind of energy or bioelectric/magnetic resonance frequency or something. Or could just be an "emergent phenomenon" of the System of a human group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless
    This is mere speculation of course.
    It is far more likely to be the case that human beings NEED to give purpose and direction to things.

    From this tendency we then assume there to be an intelligence 'behind' the world, but there is no real evidence for this.
    Arguments from intelligent design can alternatively be explained far more plausibly [and elegantly] by evolution.

    It is enough to say that we need purpose to give life a sense of a goal; that doesn't mean that a goal is inherent in life itself.
    The goal is in us.
    As is God.


    I think this is right. Without life being given some meaning or purpose there is no point to being here.
    I have traversed the dark corners of my mind for a meaning and a purpose to it all. I have sought solice in various narcotics and the like and have emerged from the other side just as empty and just as clueless as to the reasons we are all here.
    In the end if I didn't have my dogs and horses to look after I would long ago have slashed my wrists. I still do not know what the purpose of us being here is, but I do know the purpose of my animals being here....they keep me alive.......regardless of any grander and as yet unrevealed plan any God may have.

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    Post Re: A Higher Intelligence

    stroker; "I think this is right. Without life being given some meaning or purpose there is no point to being here".

    Moody; Something of a truism if we take 'purpose' and 'point' to mean the same thing.
    However, there is another outlook which says that we look that meaninglessness in the face and make life itself the point ... of life.
    Is the strongest man he who is able to live a full life WITHOUT ILLUSION?

    stroker; "I have traversed the dark corners of my mind for a meaning and a purpose to it all. I have sought solice in various narcotics and the like and have emerged from the other side just as empty and just as clueless as to the reasons we are all here".

    Moody; Cup half full or half 'empty'?
    I am interested in what you say about narcotics; could you expand on that in relation to 'intelligence' in the widest sense?

    stroker; "In the end if I didn't have my dogs and horses to look after I would long ago have slashed my wrists".

    Moody; What a divine assertion!
    But then the answer may be for those who cannot believe, but also cannot face the emptiness, to give their lives to other beings.
    All misanthropists prefer animals to humans, hence my liking of your statement.
    Now I know why you call yourself 'stroker';
    'I pressed her thigh and death smiled' (JDM, 'Lament for My Cock')

    stroker; "I still do not know what the purpose of us being here is, but I do know the purpose of my animals being here....they keep me alive.......regardless of any grander and as yet unrevealed plan any God may have".

    Moody; You may find much in Savitri Devi's work to agree with.
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
    [Leibniz/Heidegger]

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    Post Re: A Higher Intelligence

    Quote Originally Posted by stroker
    I think this is right. Without life being given some meaning or purpose there is no point to being here.
    I have traversed the dark corners of my mind for a meaning and a purpose to it all. I have sought solice in various narcotics and the like and have emerged from the other side just as empty and just as clueless as to the reasons we are all here.
    In the end if I didn't have my dogs and horses to look after I would long ago have slashed my wrists. I still do not know what the purpose of us being here is, but I do know the purpose of my animals being here....they keep me alive.......regardless of any grander and as yet unrevealed plan any God may have.
    Humans simply do not have the ability to logically comprehend existence.

    You either want to live or you don't, it's very simple. Do we really need a purpose?

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