The Alpine Face

**Euclides** · Wednesday, March 31st, 2004

The Alpine race is short-headed and broad-faced.

The fleshy parts carry on the impression of broadness and roundness, for the Alpine face, broad in itself, has often layers of fat, and in general, it would seem, a thicker outer covering. Deposits of fat are found on the upper part and the bridge of the nose, on the cheek-bones, and in and over the upper lid of the eye. The eyes give an effect of smallness (contrary to the effect of the eyes of the narrow-faced European races), since the opening between the lids is narrower and shorter; this opening sometimes takes a slightly upward direction outwards. The groove (philtrum) between the septum of the nose and the upper lip is often rather faintly marked. In old age, when the tissues become flabby and the deposits of fat disappear, the Alpines, especially the women, may grow very ugly.

**Esther_Helena** · Wednesday, March 31st, 2004

Originally Posted by Euclides

In old age, when the tissues become flabby and the deposits of fat disappear, the Alpines, especially the women, may grow very ugly.

U-G-L-Y, you ain't got not alibi, you ugly, yeah yeah you ugly

...sorry, couldn't resist

**Fred** · Wednesday, March 31st, 2004

Gunther found everything non-nordic ugly. It's stupid, you can find very ugly "nordics" and very good looking "alpines"

**Newgrange** · Wednesday, March 31st, 2004

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**Abby Normal** · Wednesday, March 31st, 2004

Originally Posted by FRED

Gunther found everything non-nordic ugly. It's stupid, you can find very ugly "nordics" and very good looking "alpines"

I agree; Gunther was full of it!

According to his "temprament" descriptions, I would be a Med / East Baltic. The Alpine temperament doesn't match mine at all (probably because it was intended to be the "inferior" temperament!

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**Scoob** · Thursday, April 1st, 2004

Originally Posted by FRED

Gunther found everything non-nordic ugly. It's stupid, you can find very ugly "nordics" and very good looking "alpines"

Beauty is rather subjective, although socities (and humans as a group) do tend to form a consensus on what's beautiful, for some reason.

I've posted elsewhere about Alpines. I often wonder if their neotenous features correspond with neotenous ("docile" - i.e., friendly, agreeable, possibly submissive) personality features. Dogs are neotenous wolves, and have neotenous personality features as well.

I think Alpines have a type of "prestige" of their own. They might not look like a heroic leader, but they look like the stereotype of a loving person, a good friend, a caring wife, "nice", etc. They elicit oxytonin ("love chemical") responses from other humans - including me!

Nordics and Meds tend to look "manly/heroic" (I speak of male stereotypes, since women of all races exhibit more generalized features, and are therefore less "typical"). I think Nord or Med mixed with some boxy UP features tend to look the most heroic or leader-like of all.

Pure UPs tend to look powerrful but a little too primitive and stupid (forgive me) to be good leaders - I notice even their body motion is quite different, they seem to be lumpering giants in a way. They lack the "grace" of the more gracile Nords and Meds, in my opinion.

And note, I'm talking about social impressions and stereotypes - which is different from inner reality. Just because Alpinids appear docile doesn't mean they really *are*! (Although I suspect there is some truth to that).