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    US States Get 'Shoot First' Law

    Washington - Burglars in the United States could once sue homeowners if they were shot, but now a growing number of states have made it legal to shoot to kill when somebody breaks into a house.

    John Woodson, 46, found that out last week when he ambled into Dennis Baker's open garage in a Dallas suburb. A surveillance video showed the robber strolling inside, hands in his pockets.

    From the shadows, Baker opened fire and killed Woodson.

    "I just had to protect myself and that was it," Baker told reporters despite the fact Woodson had not tried to enter the bedroom near the garage where Baker had been sleeping.

    The incident made national headlines since it was Baker's parrot that gave the alarm when it innocently squawked "good morning" at the intruder.

    But Woodson's death seemed anecdotal compared to another Dallas resident who a few days earlier had killed his second robber in three weeks inside his home.

    Police are investigating both cases, but it is unlikely charges will be filed. Texas recently passed a law branding anybody breaking into a home or car as a real threat of injury or death to its occupants. [...]
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    another Dallas resident who a few days earlier had killed his second robber in three weeks inside his home.
    It doesn't mention if either of the intruders were armed. Perhaps as is not unlikely the second intruder(s) were friends of the first one the home-owner shot, and were out for revenge.

    Now, if he's luring them in with a banner that says "Garage Sale!" "Dozens of Video Projectors and Plasma TV's Must Go!", then maybe that'd be different... :p

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    I have no sympathy for somebody who is killed breaking into another persons home. And they shouldn't have the ability to sue if they are injured committing a crime.

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    The bastards who break into someone's house should have no right to sue the owners for getting shot. No one, absolutely no one who steps onto someone's property uninvited should expect to be treated any better than John Woodson fella. A damn fine law this is, I say.

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    Here is the wikipedeia page listing US states with Castle Doctrine laws. the sources seem to all be good ones in this case.
    I am happy to say that I live in a state with one of these laws in place. I think that unless there is imminent risk of bodily harm that a warning shot or verbal warning is approprate. I do support the law I just think that a shot in the leg is better if an intruder is not visably armed. I have a child and am willing to use nessasary force to protect her, myself of my husband (although he is much more capable of doing injury we are both willing to do whatever it takes to defend our family). I am willing to use force to defend property but I would not intentionally cause death over property.

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    States which refuse this and similar laws are not only giving more rights to a non-law-abiding citizen than to a law-abiding citizen, but view breaking and entering as a threat to property rather than a violation of personal safety. The use of term "burglar" is rather sly because it places emphasis on the "sole intent" of that criminal, only adding to the idea that citizens who would kill someone in their house with the supposed intent to merely steal are the menacing ones. A criminal is dangerous as is wrongfully being in the home of another and there is a fair chance that criminal is willing to do worse. I feel protected knowing that the Florida state government does not want its citizens to think twice when placed in a life or death situation.

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    I don't understand how Americans possess this "over-protectiveness" of themselves and their property so much so to kill someone for robbery.

    You don't know who they could be. It might not even be a robber. They could be robbing because their family has nothing at all too eat. Or, too, they could be robbing for selfish self-enriching reasons as well.

    Americans should learn some Martial Arts. Always good for hurting someone without killing them.

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    It sounds like you're trying to justify a crime. If we are denied the right to defend ourselves and our property, then what do we have?

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    I don't care if a robber intends to feed his family or his crack habit. If it is the former, the starving family should be grateful with the result because they will have one less mouth to feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deary View Post
    It sounds like you're trying to justify a crime. If we are denied the right to defend ourselves and our property, then what do we have?
    No, not at all. As I said, it must be an American thing. Shooting someone for something so little is stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loddfafner View Post
    I don't care if a robber intends to feed his family or his crack habit. If it is the former, the starving family should be grateful with the result because they will have one less mouth to feed.
    Haha. I'm sure you don't mean that.

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