View Poll Results: Homosexuality - your opinion?

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  • As long as they stay away from me, it's ok

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  • We should tolerate it.

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    In other words it's here to stay and we as a society have to think of how to deal with it.
    Sounds titillating.
    A good start would be to reinstate its status as a psychological (or genetic - in light of mounting evidence) disorder.

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    I saw this same article and thought of posting it, then I remember the last article I posted on homosexuality...got closed and ridiculed?

    I don't go for all these studies show crap. Blah.
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    And then what? Would all gays have to be given counseling and therapy for their "psychiatric disorder", on taxpayer money?

    Or would they be institutionalised? I'm sure locking up a bunch of gay men together in an instutution, with no women or hetero men around, would go a long way to making them stop being gay.

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    And then what? Would all gays have to be given counseling and therapy for their "psychiatric disorder", on taxpayer money?

    Or would they be institutionalised? I'm sure locking up a bunch of gay men together in an instutution, with no women or hetero men around, would go a long way to making them stop being gay.
    I haven't really got that far on contemplating the fate of sexual deviants, however homosexuality should be recognized for what it is, rather than celebrated. Eager tolerance towards it is only possible in "advanced civilizations", their progressivness measured by the warmth of their attitude towards social, mental and bodily sickness. There is a reason for the hardwired negative emotions in response to homosexuality in the majority of heterosexuals (http://majorityrights.com/images/upl..._nature_of.pdf - page 10). Same-sex preference is a survival disadvantage for any population, subspecies or species procreating via sexual reproduction.

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    Three big questions we are all asking:

    Why and HOW are homosexual genetics passed from one generation to the next?

    What survival advantage do the same genes give heterosexual carriers?

    Did General Franco's ***Catholic Reformatories*** actually work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubGnostic View Post
    Same-sex preference is a survival disadvantage for any population, subspecies or species.
    That is of course obviously true. But if and when homosexuality is a hereditary condition, there is precious little we can about it -- unless we want to begin some sort of genetic scanning/modifying program to weed out any characteristics from future generations we find undesirable. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that that would present an ethical and moral dilemma the ramificatons of which would be ... considerable.

    And btw, I much prefer living in an advanced civilisation than a primitive one.

    Preferably one where one form of sexuality is not promoted over all the others, but one where people are simply left alone to live their own lives as they wish. We already have laws in place that protect (or at least are supposed to) people from sexual assault or abuse, regardless of the sexual orientation of the attacker. I don't think anything else is necessary.

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    I'm sure I don't have to tell you that that would present an ethical and moral dilemma the ramificatons of which would be ... considerable.
    Public opinion has shifted away from societal views bailing from the verities and practicalities of nature since the 60's. This process has been furthered by left-wing academics and ideological clerics by vilification and is an expression of a value system of an emotive rather than rational basis. It would be foolish to examine any pragmatic approaches towards extensive eugenics within a framework of modern societies and their values, because any sentiment of concern for the quality of human genepools is a taboo and expressing them makes you an Evil Person™. For me, the case of handing over voluntarily the formation of the genetic composition of an individual, let alone a population, to the blind randomness of gamete formation presents an ethical and moral dilemma.

    And btw, I much prefer living in an advanced civilisation than a primitive one.
    And why not? The progressiveness of modern civilization even bestows a sense of high self-esteem for degenerates by polished semantics - they are "special". And yet the very nature of an "advanced civilization" will be the demise of it.

    We already have laws in place that protect (or at least are supposed to) people from sexual assault or abuse, regardless of the sexual orientation of the attacker. I don't think anything else is necessary.
    So you deem the well-being of a populace to be of importance? How is it that this sentiment doesn't encompass the genetic health or aptitude of the populace? Consciously letting dysgenic processes gain momentum and being happy about it isn't concordant with concerns for the well-being of your native population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death and the Sun View Post
    And then what? Would all gays have to be given counseling and therapy for their "psychiatric disorder", on taxpayer money?

    Or would they be institutionalised? I'm sure locking up a bunch of gay men together in an instutution, with no women or hetero men around, would go a long way to making them stop being gay.
    Nah, exiling them out of the country and shipping them to an island in the middle of nowehere would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death and the Sun View Post
    Preferably one where one form of sexuality is not promoted over all the others, but one where people are simply left alone to live their own lives as they wish. We already have laws in place that protect (or at least are supposed to) people from sexual assault or abuse, regardless of the sexual orientation of the attacker. I don't think anything else is necessary.
    How do you feel about bestiality and pedofilia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    How do you feel about bestiality and pedofilia?
    You seem to assume that animals and children can give informed consent. This has nothing to do with the topic but someone always brings it up. Homosexuality is a naturally occurring situation with humans and other animals. It has nothing to with pedophilia or bestiality and bringing it up just clouds the issue. Unlike the tripe that NAMBLA and others forward children cannot give full consent. Without consent it is abuse/rape. Pedophilia is a term that is used as an excuse for all kinds of nastiness and has nothing to do with love.

    I never understood why people think that homosexuality is equivalent to rape, child abuse and bestiality. I can understand that it disturbs or disgusts some but the reaction is not that of a rational actor(as apposed to a tribal actor).



    Back to the topic. I do not put much stock in many studies until I have looked into their funding but this seems plausible.
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